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Earthbound_Alien
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09 Apr 2021, 8:57 am

Do you find you ever have to shut yourself away from the world to indulge in some positive energy...

Some aromatherapy, some comdey to lighten things up, some gental activities to help you recover from the aggression and violence and hatred out there?

I do.

Where I live is a very negative place, violence, hatefulness and obsession with self hatred and self worth.

Won't let you enjoy anything so obsessed are they with their egos....want a big burger and fries...nope its apparently being greedy and makes you unworthy and you should hate yourself for it and so on and so forth. They are seriously mentally ill where I live in my area, so much so you cannot have a pleasent night out with anyone without fights breaking out, people wanting you to hate yourself for not being thin enough, pretty enough, successful enough, having the approved of household furniture and a global obsession with emotional support for feelngs you are not having.

Its very weird when people are comforting you for something you are not upset over and don't care about.

I'd sell my soul for a relaxing evening out but the people in my area are so negative I am not able to fulfill this need at this time.

All they seem to do is feel sorry for me for being less than them because I am autistic and not a social butterfly.

How negative...I don't care that I am autistic. I don't want to be an NT they cannot be happy go lucky and hate themselves to much. Everyone seems to hate themselves. They can't just appreciate being alive, they are obsessed with being perfect. It seems painful. My autism means i don't care about social status and perfectionism, i just want to be able to enjoy spending time with people.

But I can't stand their negativity and their insistance that i must think of myself as inferior to the, defective, a lesser being because I am not one of them. Too arrogant.

I want to teach the world to be happier go luckier and more accepting.

Why would I want to be NT if it means I have to teach disabled people to hate themselves for being disabled? How horrible.

I sometimes isolate because I'd rather be around positive energy.

We only get to exist once, does it matter if we are not perfect?
NTs are obsessed with worthiness. I don't want to know as it spoils being alive.



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09 Apr 2021, 9:51 am

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NTs are obsessed with worthiness. I don't want to know as it spoils being alive.


I could definitely learn some things from you. While I crave being around other people, I am most content when I am alone because of others' unfair expectations and opinions of me. When I am alone, I don't think about the constant friction between myself and others (well, I do because of loneliness and feeling discouraged to reach out.)

I am trying to settle into a life of doing things simply because I feel like it or think it will make me laugh.



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09 Apr 2021, 10:36 pm

SpottedMushroom wrote:
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NTs are obsessed with worthiness. I don't want to know as it spoils being alive.


I could definitely learn some things from you. While I crave being around other people, I am most content when I am alone because of others' unfair expectations and opinions of me. When I am alone, I don't think about the constant friction between myself and others (well, I do because of loneliness and feeling discouraged to reach out.)

I am trying to settle into a life of doing things simply because I feel like it or think it will make me laugh.


I struggle more with peoples unrealistic expectations of me such as expecting me to talk when I have nothing to say or I can't think of anything to say. I find social chit chat really hard on that front. People then think I am being unfriendly or that I don't like them when that may not actually be true. Then they attack me because they have taken my quietness personally and make themselves look insane to me.

Afterall a person may not always have anything to say about the subject being discussed.

I tend to find a lot of social chit chat is repatitive ie:

Them:Hi, nice sunny day today isnt it
me: yes
Them: Nice for a change
Me: yes it is

End of conversation and cue awkward silence.

Socialising just seems to be a repetition of the same conversation over and over again and never develops into anything else. I want to be social but find it too difficult and I keep getting accused of all sort by people when I have not done what I have been accussed of.

Need some time to relax on your own with a puzzle for a bit (not me time but much needed downtime/quiet time to unwind my nervous system and regain mental focus) then I am being selfish, or unfriendly, or nacissistic, or inconsiderate.

Have a tic? Then i am pulling faces at them on purpose and must be a nasty person (even at 3 years old I got this one).

Feel ill and need to be quiet for a while then I must be depressed (not necessarily but I hardly feel like the life and soul of the party when I feel like death warmed up).

I sorry that the world cannot stand quiet introverts whom get physical health problems but I simply cannot keep up with their unrealistic expectations, so I tend to pull back from socialising a lot due to that.

Also I don't like pity...pity is negative not positive. Understanding from a realistic perspective is better ie understanding someones health issue and how it effects their functioning is preferable.

As much as I can get a bit down some days because I am feeling bored stuck in bed ill again Id rather just try and make the best of it by keeping myself entertained. However when I don't feel well, chit chat with people I hardly know and whom wont, don't or can't understand my situation is not very helpful to me.

I miss the days that when you had the flu people just offered you a lemsip and sat quietly with you whilst watching a movie or something. The comfortable silence, how I miss it.

Now i feel under constant pressure to talk all the time or risk being accussed of having depression and being given emotional support for my self hatred whilst being pitied by everyone for being a defective human.

I'll stick to the lemsip...



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10 Apr 2021, 11:16 am

Ohhh yes, I can understand that. If there is something to talk about, I can talk plenty, but I think most people like to talk about very boring things, or the conversation itself is meaningless. I often don't have any input on those topics, especially if I don't know the other person well.

I have also noticed that when I do things for my own health, I am labelled as such: rude, selfish, unfriendly...
For example, why is it rude for me to turn down/off someone's music, but not for them to suddenly invade my peaceful space with loud noise? Or sometimes a person will ask me if I want the lights on, and I'll say no, and they'll turn it on anyway, so I'll turn them off because they hurt my eyes. If the other person wants the lights on, they should just say that and we can start the exchange there. But if they are pretending to do it for my benefit, when it is really just one more thing I have to tolerate for them, that is an issue.

People hate my expressions! I don't even know why, it's just my face. I honestly wish other people were more expressive because I feel like people are so dead-pan, but I know that's probably just me not reading them well.

Earthbound_Alien wrote:
However when I don't feel well, chit chat with people I hardly know and whom wont, don't or can't understand my situation is not very helpful to me.


I feel this way with my depression and physical health issues too.

Earthbound_Alien wrote:
Now i feel under constant pressure to talk all the time or risk being accussed of having depression and being given emotional support for my self hatred whilst being pitied by everyone for being a defective human.


It sounds like people refuse to see that you view yourself good as you are. :( I have experienced some of that.



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10 Apr 2021, 3:10 pm

Earthbound_Alien wrote:
Do you find you ever have to shut yourself away from the world to indulge in some positive energy...

Yes.
Ever since I got out on my own in 1987 I have several times demonstrated that the less I pay attention to the news the more energy I have to use to get things done.

And that getting rid of TV altogether increased that even more.

And now that there are several endocrine, neurological, and mitochondrial, diseases to contend with the effect of getting rid of those is even more important as those diseases have reduced the amount of physical and mental energy my body CAN produce.


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10 Apr 2021, 3:20 pm

Yes. I do tend to need to shut myself off from the world on occasions in order to prevent me from having issues. I have had to shild myself from watching the news on TV. I sometimes have to avoid things that I would otherwize be required to attend. A few days ago I did not attend a funeral as I can no longer do funerals after attending so many in the past, where I reached the point where it effected me. (I am not sure I could attend my own funeral!)

But yes. Often these days I find I am shielding myself from stressful situations.

Positivity is the road to healing, so it is good to aim to be positive.


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