What are your thoughts about UFO,s and Aliens.

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...Maybe we ourselves are Aliens!

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That UFOs are alien spacecraft/aliens is an extraordinary claim. A handful of unexplained incidents are not extraordinary evidence, especially not for any one hypothesis (ie aliens). Therefore UFOs are probably not alien spacecraft/aliens.

We express thoughts with words, thanks to the way we express ourselves (communication) we have built the world we live in today, I thought this was a major difference, maybe I’m wrong.

Perhaps one day a dog will be able to talk with other dogs and share knowledge like human beings do and build a space ship.

How many animals do you know can smile? We can express our emotions with a look on our face, other animals can't.
Other animals look the same as one another facial wise, human beings all look different from each other. We express what is on our minds through speech and facial expressions.

Thanks to the way we use words, we can express our experiences like nothing else on earth, our use of words created a new dimension in communication, a new way of being.
Without speech, how would we have shared knowledge and evolve the way we have today.

Unless you can think of any other animal with a superior form of communication skills, I would say this is a major difference.

Good answer, I suppose it's better than saying there is no difference between human beings and other animals.

I see them when I lower the dose of my medication.

If a UFO were to land on a highway tomorrow morning, the reaction would probably be angry motorists because of them being delayed to work to get their coffee. The UFO would be seen as a highway menace like a fallen power line.

Well...take that with a grain of salt (or a coffee ground). I am just having fun with the topic.

There was a similar topic a while back but I am not good at finding past topics. So I will repeat my reply here, briefly.

I basically said then and still believe now, that the universe is too vast not to have some other intelligent life form, somewhere in it.

Whether they travel here or not, I don't know; but it would certainly be possible, if they do exist.

I have no vested interest in that either way since there's no guarantee they would be friendly.

We have watched a lot of 'documentary' programs on this topic. There are some startling, apparent UFO sightings including one similar to what glider18 just joked about - a huge one hovering over a city and major road. Phoenix, I think it was. Even the then-AZ governor saw it.

There are really a surprising amount of sightings that are similar to that (did not happen in back woods where only two locals out fishing saw it) I guess it just is not talked about that widely (except in joking.)

I do think a lot of sightings are experimental and classified (earthly) aircraft which is why so many are seen near military bases.

Ah ! ! at last a subject that is near and dear to my heart. I first became fascinated by the subject of aliens piloting UFOs back in the 1960s when I was a lad. Over the years I've read many books and heard many theories. Let's demolish the "surely we're not alone" rubbish first. If you take the time to study the development of technology as I have, you would realize that there is absolutely NO guarantee that an intelligent race with opposable thumbs will naturally keep innovating technology. You doubt this? Check our own planet, there are aborigine tribes scattered around this world that should we disappear, would blithely go on with their stone age ways, merely adding legends about a race of people who showed up one day and then disappeared. For that matter, consider that we have wasted our advanced technology on destroying each other. You have to posit a hospitable planet, intelligence, progression of technology, AND peaceful coexistence. There could be two planets of intelligent aliens out there that have spent eons fighting each other and never developing deep space exploration. One movie voiced it correctly when the alien said he came from a planet with one race, one language, and one religion. Makes you wonder if we'll EVER develop deep space exploration. When you look at it, the first crossings of the oceans were in wooden ships using the wind to push them. If you could jump into a time machine and go back to tell Columbus that we can travel across the ocean in high flying aircraft in a matter of hours, he'd crap his trousers. Now extrapolate that to space travel. We are stuck at the level of wooden sailing ships. We can't even get to Mars. What (besides Hollywood movies) makes you think aliens could develop the type of technology that would by necessity travel faster than light? AND what would make them want to come here? If they can see the telly shows we beam into space, they would be well advised to steer clear of this dismal, violent swamp. They would literally be risking their alien necks to drop in. If the advanced missile technologies didn't nail them, well, there's always a frightened farmer's shotgun that would take them out.

Prof_Pretorius: But why would other planets necessarily house life forms equal or below our intelligence or capability or cultural advancement (or lack of.) They could be smarter, calmer and less violent, to begin with, as well as an older more advanced civilisation.

In other words there is nothing to base "they'd have to be just like us and we haven't done it so they can't either" upon or "they'd have to be smarter than us." Either way it's just supposition until I guess one of us shakes hands with one. Until then it's beliefs or 'who do we believe' - those who claim to have been on board a UFO or have seen one flying around in our sky, or, those who say it's hog wash. Either way it's basically a 'who do you believe' scenario.

I don't think they would land here either though, in fact the one supposed alien body was from a supposed crash site. I think occasionally a ship might send a scout pod or something, to gather fuel in the form of minerals, or take biological samples (flora and fauna.) I agree it would be madness to land in a violent place like earth if you didn't have to.

Thank you Knord, I guess I babble on a bit in my description of things, all I had to say was the greatest difference between mankind and all the other animals on earth is our behaviour and communication skills, it has made a huge difference with human evolution.

Everything’s connected, genetically entwined, a product of the environment. So it’s established, we are not aliens.

I live in Spain and all we see on the TV at the moment is programmes about aliens visiting earth in the past and giving us a kick start with our technology. I don’t believe it, if this was true then why did they give us the feeble end of the stick, burning fuel as a form of propulsion hardly seems advanced, we have taken almost 40 years just to stick a probe on mars, we can’t even build a ship fast enough or safe enough to take us there, so the thought of aliens helping us in the past doesn’t make much sense to me. Sooner or later we would have stumbled upon fuel propulsion any way, discovering how to create fire and tools would eventually take us there, as it has. So that quashes the idea that aliens helped us in the past, but I do believe other civilization must exist somewhere out there.

It’s a fascinating thought to think we are not alone in the universe, the mind boggles at how advanced other civilisations might be (mind wise, not technology).

Thanks Fnord, a shame I wasn’t able to join in the debate, I sifted through as many as I could, you were lucky, you managed to join in the debate. It looks like there was a few people who had been convinced fake photo’s of UFO.s were real, the last photo looked like someone threw a sink plunger at the Eiffil Tower and then snapped a photo of it passing by.