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dexkaden
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31 Jan 2007, 2:14 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:

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Might as well just get a Mac. Then you can experience what Vista is trying to emulate.

LOL ! ! I read a review of Vister, and the writer kept saying "it does this, just like the Mac, and it does that, just like the Mac", so why buy an imitation?? Just buy a Mac, and get the real thing ! ! I would, if I had the shekels.

Yeah, David Pogue of the NY Times has a nice video showing exactly that!

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31 Jan 2007, 2:42 pm

I'll wait for the first service pack to come out.

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31 Jan 2007, 7:33 pm

I much prefer XP over Vista, and Linux is even better. Unfortunately I will have no choice but to buy it bundled with my new laptop . On the plus side, I'll have a new laptop .

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31 Jan 2007, 7:45 pm

chadders wrote:

I much prefer XP over Vista, and Linux is even better. Unfortunately I will have no choice but to buy it bundled with my new laptop

. On the plus side, I'll have a new laptop

I thought that if you asked, the supplier won't sell you Windows bundled.

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31 Jan 2007, 7:45 pm

chadders wrote:

I much prefer XP over Vista, and Linux is even better. Unfortunately I will have no choice but to buy it bundled with my new laptop

. On the plus side, I'll have a new laptop

Who are you getting the laptop from? There are linux users out there who have convinced computer manufacturers to give them a refund for windows. If you deny the windows license you can get a refund.

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01 Feb 2007, 1:10 am

Well, I'm getting Vista no matter what you n00bs say Lol, but I'm a little skeptical as well... when I get it, I'll post some screens and stuff to let you know how it goes...

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01 Feb 2007, 1:33 am

Not getting it. Just would make my comp slower.

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01 Feb 2007, 7:04 am

I've seen screen shots of the new Windows Vista. I don't like their bubble for a start menu. Yet again I'm sure a skin/theme can be obtained. But what am I worrying about lol . Linux all the way .

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01 Feb 2007, 7:15 am

Sorry I forgot to make a poll option for Linux :oops: It just slipped my mind.

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01 Feb 2007, 9:47 am

I think I'll stick with XP as well

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01 Feb 2007, 10:16 am

OS X until I can get a macbook (meaning once they have a better graphics chip and once I can afford one), then OS X and XP. All I'd be using XP for would be for some older games that I'd like to play from time to time.

I wouldn't buy Vista until I had a need for it.

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01 Feb 2007, 12:06 pm

MS will be blocking the loading of all drivers not signed by MS. Signing the code is expensive, particularly if you're an open source type trying to provide code for free. There's a hack to allow unsigned drivers, but the user has to approve it on every boot, so you have to hang around for your BIOS to finish, hit F8, and select the "approve unsigned drivers" option.

So those of us who depend on free 3rd party drivers like the free openvpn are screwed.

This will sure help big hardware vendors, though, as they can afford the signing process. Small upstarts will see this added cost and will likely go work in another market where they don't have to prove their integrity to the OS vendor.

The right way to do this is to let you, the user, decide, just as you do with secure websites. Let there be some common certification authorities (just as there are those installed in your copy of Firefox) but let the user add more and add more certificates for driver writers he trusts. (This would be done by the machine admin, so the owner of the machine gets the say, not his employee or kid.)

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01 Feb 2007, 1:43 pm

I just bought an iMac, and Vista is my reason for doing so. Installing Vista takes a while, it slows down the entire machine and it's incompatible with a LOT of hardware. On any affordable computer it's no better than XP, and in many cases it is actually worse.

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01 Feb 2007, 1:48 pm

saw it at wal-mart the other day..i'll probably get the home deluxe version..wasn't as much as i thought it would be..about 150 u.s. dollars..basic was about 85-90..

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01 Feb 2007, 1:58 pm

Watch out for which license you get. Not all can be moved to a new computer if you do significant upgrades.

Newegg promotion for Vista:

http://promotions.newegg.com/microsoft/vista/

Pricing:

http://promotions.newegg.com/msvista/Vista_Products.html

$100 Home Basic
$120 Home Premium
$150 Business
$200 Ultimate

The cheap price appears to be because it's an OEM "System Builder" license. From the specifications tab on any of the products:

Quote:

This OEM software is intended for system builders only and cannot be transferred to another PC once it is installed. The purchaser of this software is required to comply with the terms of the System Builder license, including the responsibility of providing all end user support for the software.

http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

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01 Feb 2007, 2:15 pm

The question for Chadders is: if he gets a computer with the bloody mess on it, can he wipe the hard drive and install Linux?? Or does Microsquish block wiping the hard drive ??

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