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24 Dec 2017, 10:49 pm

I guess Edison had an intentional sleep system. I don't. That's just always been my natural sleep pattern.



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24 Dec 2017, 10:57 pm

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That means you will invent the lightbulb!! !


It means he is going to produce the definitive Trump blog. :D


Just because I think people act bonkers over the guy, it doesn't make me a fan.



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24 Dec 2017, 11:16 pm

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i'd read somewhere that the few cases of people losing the ability to sleep, cut their lifespans short, to less than 50 years.


I would have thought that it would be maybe 1 to 2 years after onset. The longest I ever went without any sleep at all was about 6 days. I can't imagine doing that for a year, much less longer.



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24 Dec 2017, 11:22 pm

kokopelli wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i'd read somewhere that the few cases of people losing the ability to sleep, cut their lifespans short, to less than 50 years.


I would have thought that it would be maybe 1 to 2 years after onset. The longest I ever went without any sleep at all was about 6 days. I can't imagine doing that for a year, much less longer.

the lucky ones stroked out first, the unlucky ones went insane first.



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24 Dec 2017, 11:46 pm

I vaguely remember a documentary about that. The poor man started gradually falling apart to where he couldn't function at all and died.



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24 Dec 2017, 11:52 pm

I become extremely sleepy as soon as the sun sets. Right now, that is about 4:30 pm. I'll sleep from about 5pm until about 8pm. Then, I'll be up until 2 or 3am. I get up every morning at 6am.

It sucks.


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25 Dec 2017, 2:55 am

I remember watching a syfy movie about this special military group that was given a drug so they wouldn't need sleep. They were doing these virtual reality military drills & their bodies started responding like they were really injured from the lack of sleep. For example one person got blown up by a grenade & his body acted like he was really next to an explosion. Another person got shot & he died from a real bullet hole.


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25 Dec 2017, 3:14 am

Sleep... Oh! how I loathe those little slices of death.... " - Edgar Allan Poe



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25 Dec 2017, 3:22 am

I LOVE 'em! :heart:



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25 Dec 2017, 9:01 pm

I read that Thomas developed hearing problems at a young age. It may have been because he got scarlet fever and had a lot of untreated ear infections. Hey, *I'm* a little hard of hearing, and had a lot of ear infections when I was a kid. I must be a genius, too! :D

Nah. :|



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25 Dec 2017, 9:16 pm

If I were a genius, I just might be dangerous.



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27 Dec 2017, 2:14 pm

On the subject of first sleep, second sleep, here's a good article on it from the BBC at http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16964783:

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In the early 1990s, psychiatrist Thomas Wehr conducted an experiment in which a group of people were plunged into darkness for 14 hours every day for a month.

It took some time for their sleep to regulate but by the fourth week the subjects had settled into a very distinct sleeping pattern. They slept first for four hours, then woke for one or two hours before falling into a second four-hour sleep.

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In 2001, historian Roger Ekirch of Virginia Tech published a seminal paper, drawn from 16 years of research, revealing a wealth of historical evidence that humans used to sleep in two distinct chunks.

His book At Day's Close: Night in Times Past, published four years later, unearths more than 500 references to a segmented sleeping pattern - in diaries, court records, medical books and literature, from Homer's Odyssey to an anthropological account of modern tribes in Nigeria.

Much like the experience of Wehr's subjects, these references describe a first sleep which began about two hours after dusk, followed by waking period of one or two hours and then a second sleep.

"It's not just the number of references - it is the way they refer to it, as if it was common knowledge," Ekirch says.

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A doctor's manual from 16th Century France even advised couples that the best time to conceive was not at the end of a long day's labour but "after the first sleep", when "they have more enjoyment" and "do it better".

Ekirch found that references to the first and second sleep started to disappear during the late 17th Century. This started among the urban upper classes in northern Europe and over the course of the next 200 years filtered down to the rest of Western society.

By the 1920s the idea of a first and second sleep had receded entirely from our social consciousness.

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Night became fashionable and spending hours lying in bed was considered a waste of time.

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Today, most people seem to have adapted quite well to the eight-hour sleep, but Ekirch believes many sleeping problems may have roots in the human body's natural preference for segmented sleep as well as the ubiquity of artificial light.

This could be the root of a condition called sleep maintenance insomnia, where people wake during the night and have trouble getting back to sleep, he suggests.

The condition first appears in literature at the end of the 19th Century, at the same time as accounts of segmented sleep disappear.

"For most of evolution we slept a certain way," says sleep psychologist Gregg Jacobs. "Waking up during the night is part of normal human physiology."



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27 Dec 2017, 2:22 pm

I slept like a baby last night... I woke up every hour, crying, and wishing I had a nipple in my mouth.

(This is a joke. Kind of.)


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27 Dec 2017, 2:41 pm

caffeinekid wrote:
I slept like a baby last night... I woke up every hour, crying, and wishing I had a nipple in my mouth.

(This is a joke. Kind of.)

is that the same thing as wishing your mouth was on a nipple? [a subtle but real difference]



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27 Dec 2017, 2:44 pm

auntblabby wrote:
caffeinekid wrote:
I slept like a baby last night... I woke up every hour, crying, and wishing I had a nipple in my mouth.

(This is a joke. Kind of.)

is that the same thing as wishing your mouth was on a nipple? [a subtle but real difference]


You just made me visualise biting one off and having it in my mouth. Yes that would be a difference for the worse. Ouch.


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27 Dec 2017, 4:13 pm

Thomas Edison is dead.
There's no sleep to compare with that one.


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