27 Mar 2011, 8:26 am
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27 Mar 2011, 9:18 am
ruveyn wrote:
Anything that cannot be detected might as well not exist.
I can't detect you at the moment, therefore you don't exist?
'I see dead text, on a screen'.
27 Mar 2011, 9:21 am
Cornflake wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Anything that cannot be detected might as well not exist.
I can't detect you at the moment, therefore you don't exist?'I see dead text, on a screen'.
Not so. You detect me by way of the electronic posts I send you. Detect is not synonymous with perceive. Most things at the sub atomic level are detected by not perceived.
ruveyn
27 Mar 2011, 9:31 am
ruveyn wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Anything that cannot be detected might as well not exist.
I can't detect you at the moment, therefore you don't exist?'I see dead text, on a screen'.
27 Mar 2011, 9:38 am
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27 Mar 2011, 10:21 am
dupertuis wrote:
Both my wife and my daughter talk about ghosts in our home as if they see them roaming the hall in slippers and bathrobe. I look into empty space and go, "Okaaaaay."
I'm open-minded on the subject, but I can't pick up the vibes of the living, much less the departed!
How about you? Any aspies here with that sixth sense?
dp
I'm open-minded on the subject, but I can't pick up the vibes of the living, much less the departed!
How about you? Any aspies here with that sixth sense?
dp
Ugh.
I have the same problem. I've been in apartments that my mother and sister swore were "haunted," but me, being a night owl who is prone to staying awake by myself until the wee hours of the morning, I never saw any ghosties or beasties.
I think it was Carl Sagan who said, "There are no haunted houses, only haunted people."
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I did not say that. I said (or I meant to say) there is no practical difference between a non-existent and something that has no detectable effects. And many of the things we think we detect of boojums created by misidentification. For example, ghosts.
Yes.
There is currently no reason for me to "believe" in ghosts. At some point we may invent an instrument that can detect the presence of what we commonly call "ghosts," but that is speculative. There is currently no more reason for me to "believe" that the dead walk the Earth then there is for me to believe in angels, demons, bunyips, bigfoot, alien abductions, or gods. Evidence first, belief later.
Currently, there are many much more mundane explanations for "ghosts." When in doubt, whip out Occum's Razor. In any case, science primarily concerns itself with the measurable physical world. If these "ghosts" are not physical or measurable, there will never be a reason for me to believe in them unless I see one for myself, and can be convinced it was a "ghost" in the traditional sense and not a peculiar neurological "brain fart."
06 Apr 2011, 4:55 pm
14 Jun 2012, 9:10 pm
Amik wrote:
I don't see dead people. However, when I lived with my parents, my mother said I always kind of "came home" a few minutes before I physically came home. She'd always know when I was about to come home, even though she had no idea what my schedule was. She'd feel my presence somehow for a few minutes before I'd walk in the door.
The rest of the family was really skeptical of this at first and thought she was nuts and we actually tested this, with me coming home at random times without her having any idea what my plan was, and she'd always tell another family member in the house in 10 minutes' advance that I was about to come.
So in a way I guess I send a ghost version of myself ahead of me.
My mother experienced the same with my father, but never with my siblings or anyone else.
The rest of the family was really skeptical of this at first and thought she was nuts and we actually tested this, with me coming home at random times without her having any idea what my plan was, and she'd always tell another family member in the house in 10 minutes' advance that I was about to come.
So in a way I guess I send a ghost version of myself ahead of me.
My mother experienced the same with my father, but never with my siblings or anyone else.
I know this is an old thread but I found Amik's story very interesting, especially the fact that it worked with some and not with others. I of course started trying to figure out why. So my first question would be if Amik's Mom might also be on the spectrum and also the Dad but not the siblings?
14 Jun 2012, 9:12 pm
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