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19 Sep 2019, 8:53 am

Ah. I didn't know what he meant...

Welsh bullet... "Listen here boyo! If you're not careful I will shoot you!"
The second Welsh bullet.... "See them two houses up on the hill. I will hit the one in the middle".


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19 Sep 2019, 9:04 am

I like that wit! 8)



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19 Sep 2019, 9:08 am

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I like that wit! 8)


Haha. We are quite a fun people here in Wales. Ok, some are a bit more serious... But we do generally have some humour. We need it! Haha!

Ah. How to get this thread back on topic?

I know.

BANG! whispered the bullet as it fell out the barrel.

And....

BNAG! That's bang out of order!


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19 Sep 2019, 9:51 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
Ah. I didn't know what he meant...


Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

Bridgekeeper: Stop. Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.

Bridgekeeper: Hee hee heh. Stop. What... is your name?

King Arthur: It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.

Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?

King Arthur: To seek the Holy Grail.

Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

King Arthur: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

Bridgekeeper: Huh? I... I don't know that.

[he is thrown over]

Bridgekeeper: Auuuuuuuugh.

Sir Bedevere: How do know so much about swallows?

King Arthur: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.



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19 Sep 2019, 11:13 am

Were his legs and arms cut off?


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19 Sep 2019, 11:34 am

That was a different scene.

[after slicing one of the Black Knight's arm off]

King Arthur: Now stand aside, worthy adversary!

Black Knight: 'Tis but a scratch!

King Arthur: A scratch? Your arm's off!

Black Knight: No, it isn't.

King Arthur: What's that, then?

Black Knight: [after a pause] I've had worse.

King Arthur: You liar!

Black Knight: Come on, you pansy!

King Arthur: [after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms] Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left!

Black Knight: Yes I have.

King Arthur: Look!

Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.

[the Black Knight continues to threaten Arthur despite getting both his arms and one of his legs cut off]

Black Knight: Right, I'll do you for that!

King Arthur: You'll what?

Black Knight: Come here!

King Arthur: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?

Black Knight: I'm invincible!

King Arthur: ...You're a loony.

[King Arthur has just cut the Black Knight's last leg off]

Black Knight: All right, we'll call it a draw.

King Arthur: [Preparing to leave] Come, Patsy.

[King Arthur and Patsy ride off]

Black Knight: [calling after King Arthur] Oh, oh, I see! Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!



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19 Sep 2019, 3:14 pm

If you put a bullet in your pocket, it can surround the Earth



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20 Sep 2019, 3:41 pm

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If you put a bullet in your pocket, it can surround the Earth


How so?



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20 Sep 2019, 4:27 pm

EzraS wrote:
That was a different scene.

[after slicing one of the Black Knight's arm off]

King Arthur: Now stand aside, worthy adversary!

Black Knight: 'Tis but a scratch!

King Arthur: A scratch? Your arm's off!

Black Knight: No, it isn't.

King Arthur: What's that, then?

Black Knight: [after a pause] I've had worse.

King Arthur: You liar!

Black Knight: Come on, you pansy!

King Arthur: [after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms] Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left!

Black Knight: Yes I have.

King Arthur: Look!

Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.

[the Black Knight continues to threaten Arthur despite getting both his arms and one of his legs cut off]

Black Knight: Right, I'll do you for that!

King Arthur: You'll what?

Black Knight: Come here!

King Arthur: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?

Black Knight: I'm invincible!

King Arthur: ...You're a loony.

[King Arthur has just cut the Black Knight's last leg off]

Black Knight: All right, we'll call it a draw.

King Arthur: [Preparing to leave] Come, Patsy.

[King Arthur and Patsy ride off]

Black Knight: [calling after King Arthur] Oh, oh, I see! Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!


Uhmm. Probably met people like that. HAHAHAHA!


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20 Sep 2019, 4:46 pm

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If one has a HARP gun and one uses HAARP to push up the outer atmosphere of the earth, one can shoot a gun a very long range. For example, a distance of from somewhere like the UK to the Middle East is more then possible with quite some precision as well.
So it all depends on what sort of gum one is using and what equipment one has to assist the bullet to travel further. The gun itself... The more powerful the gun te further the bullet will go, as long as the bullet is fired in such a way that it remains stable in the air. (Hence the reason why gun barrels are made to rotate the bullets as a rotating bullet will stabilize itself while travelling. Old guns used round ball like bullets because the early guns barrels dis not do this. (Think cannon and you get the idea).
In theory, the longer the gun barrel, the greater the accuracy of the gun over a long distance, but the longer the barrel, the more friction imposed on the bullet before the bullet gets to leave the barrel. So, the longer the barrel, the more force that is needed to set the bullet in motion in the first place.

Now all of what I have written above is in regards to guns which shoot unpowered bullets. When we shoot a bullet that has its own source of propulsion we open up a whole new world of capeability.... But, powered projectiles (Think rocket and you get the idea) are far easier to detect on enemy radar systems, which goes back to the start of what I have written in how conventional long range guns like the HARP gun have a real "Stealth like" advantage in that one can shoot a bullet to hit a target over incredible distances (Hence why they need to use HAARP alongside the HARP) and one can start a war where a fragile situation between two opposing groups and each group thought that the other started the conflict... While all the time it was done to cause a situation of conflict by an outside source... I am not saying this has happened, but the potential to cause conflicts in this way is certainly a possibility.

Now going back to ordinary guns a soldier or anyone else may carry... It can be quite surprizing how far a bullet may travel. Years ago in the UK soldiers were involved in target practice much in the same way that soldiers would do in any other country around the world. The targets were set up so that the sea was behind them for safety reasons, so any stray bullets will go out to sea.
One day a sailor was found dead on his boat which happened to be sailing a great distance from the shore. I believe it was ten or twelve miles away. An investigation was launched as they thought a murder had taken place. The bullet was discovered and traced back to it being a stray that had come from the target. No one could believe how far that bullet had travelled as it had previously thought that bullets only travelled about two miles for such a gun. Since those days onwards, the safety zone for sea going vessels was massively expanded so such an unfortunate event should not happen again. This event really took everyone by surprize, especially as the sailor had died with a shot to the head.


That poor sailor guy. Maybe he was only a mile or so out from the shore when the bullet hit him, and then the boat drifted with his dead body farther out before they found him.

Or maybe the bullet skipped across the surface of the sea (like when children skip stones across the surface of a stream)and thus multiplied its range.

Just wonderin.



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22 Sep 2019, 2:00 am

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The records for the longest sniper kills among the armed forces began to be published in 1967 during the Vietnam War by the US Military. The current record holder for the longest kill range of any sniper in history is an anonymous sniper from the Joint Task Force 2, a unit of the Canadian Forces who managed a successful sniper kill at a range of 3,871 yards in May 2017 during the Iraq Civil War. However, there are other well-known snipers who held previous records for the longest sniper kills. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the ... story.html



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22 Sep 2019, 10:34 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
If one has a HARP gun and one uses HAARP to push up the outer atmosphere of the earth, one can shoot a gun a very long range. For example, a distance of from somewhere like the UK to the Middle East is more then possible with quite some precision as well.
So it all depends on what sort of gum one is using and what equipment one has to assist the bullet to travel further. The gun itself... The more powerful the gun te further the bullet will go, as long as the bullet is fired in such a way that it remains stable in the air. (Hence the reason why gun barrels are made to rotate the bullets as a rotating bullet will stabilize itself while travelling. Old guns used round ball like bullets because the early guns barrels dis not do this. (Think cannon and you get the idea).
In theory, the longer the gun barrel, the greater the accuracy of the gun over a long distance, but the longer the barrel, the more friction imposed on the bullet before the bullet gets to leave the barrel. So, the longer the barrel, the more force that is needed to set the bullet in motion in the first place.

Now all of what I have written above is in regards to guns which shoot unpowered bullets. When we shoot a bullet that has its own source of propulsion we open up a whole new world of capeability.... But, powered projectiles (Think rocket and you get the idea) are far easier to detect on enemy radar systems, which goes back to the start of what I have written in how conventional long range guns like the HARP gun have a real "Stealth like" advantage in that one can shoot a bullet to hit a target over incredible distances (Hence why they need to use HAARP alongside the HARP) and one can start a war where a fragile situation between two opposing groups and each group thought that the other started the conflict... While all the time it was done to cause a situation of conflict by an outside source... I am not saying this has happened, but the potential to cause conflicts in this way is certainly a possibility.

Now going back to ordinary guns a soldier or anyone else may carry... It can be quite surprizing how far a bullet may travel. Years ago in the UK soldiers were involved in target practice much in the same way that soldiers would do in any other country around the world. The targets were set up so that the sea was behind them for safety reasons, so any stray bullets will go out to sea.
One day a sailor was found dead on his boat which happened to be sailing a great distance from the shore. I believe it was ten or twelve miles away. An investigation was launched as they thought a murder had taken place. The bullet was discovered and traced back to it being a stray that had come from the target. No one could believe how far that bullet had travelled as it had previously thought that bullets only travelled about two miles for such a gun. Since those days onwards, the safety zone for sea going vessels was massively expanded so such an unfortunate event should not happen again. This event really took everyone by surprize, especially as the sailor had died with a shot to the head.


That poor sailor guy. Maybe he was only a mile or so out from the shore when the bullet hit him, and then the boat drifted with his dead body farther out before they found him.

Or maybe the bullet skipped across the surface of the sea (like when children skip stones across the surface of a stream)and thus multiplied its range.

Just wonderin.


He was over 10 miles away. I seem to remember 12 or more miles. It was very unexpected and why they had to have a total rethink when it came to safety zones.


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22 Sep 2019, 2:54 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
If one has a HARP gun and one uses HAARP to push up the outer atmosphere of the earth, one can shoot a gun a very long range. For example, a distance of from somewhere like the UK to the Middle East is more then possible with quite some precision as well.
So it all depends on what sort of gum one is using and what equipment one has to assist the bullet to travel further. The gun itself... The more powerful the gun te further the bullet will go, as long as the bullet is fired in such a way that it remains stable in the air. (Hence the reason why gun barrels are made to rotate the bullets as a rotating bullet will stabilize itself while travelling. Old guns used round ball like bullets because the early guns barrels dis not do this. (Think cannon and you get the idea).
In theory, the longer the gun barrel, the greater the accuracy of the gun over a long distance, but the longer the barrel, the more friction imposed on the bullet before the bullet gets to leave the barrel. So, the longer the barrel, the more force that is needed to set the bullet in motion in the first place.

Now all of what I have written above is in regards to guns which shoot unpowered bullets. When we shoot a bullet that has its own source of propulsion we open up a whole new world of capeability.... But, powered projectiles (Think rocket and you get the idea) are far easier to detect on enemy radar systems, which goes back to the start of what I have written in how conventional long range guns like the HARP gun have a real "Stealth like" advantage in that one can shoot a bullet to hit a target over incredible distances (Hence why they need to use HAARP alongside the HARP) and one can start a war where a fragile situation between two opposing groups and each group thought that the other started the conflict... While all the time it was done to cause a situation of conflict by an outside source... I am not saying this has happened, but the potential to cause conflicts in this way is certainly a possibility.

Now going back to ordinary guns a soldier or anyone else may carry... It can be quite surprizing how far a bullet may travel. Years ago in the UK soldiers were involved in target practice much in the same way that soldiers would do in any other country around the world. The targets were set up so that the sea was behind them for safety reasons, so any stray bullets will go out to sea.
One day a sailor was found dead on his boat which happened to be sailing a great distance from the shore. I believe it was ten or twelve miles away. An investigation was launched as they thought a murder had taken place. The bullet was discovered and traced back to it being a stray that had come from the target. No one could believe how far that bullet had travelled as it had previously thought that bullets only travelled about two miles for such a gun. Since those days onwards, the safety zone for sea going vessels was massively expanded so such an unfortunate event should not happen again. This event really took everyone by surprize, especially as the sailor had died with a shot to the head.


That poor sailor guy. Maybe he was only a mile or so out from the shore when the bullet hit him, and then the boat drifted with his dead body farther out before they found him.

Or maybe the bullet skipped across the surface of the sea (like when children skip stones across the surface of a stream)and thus multiplied its range.

Just wonderin.


He was over 10 miles away. I seem to remember 12 or more miles. It was very unexpected and why they had to have a total rethink when it came to safety zones.


I know all of that. That's why I was talking about it.



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22 Sep 2019, 3:42 pm

It must have really puzzled the athorities when they found the body and tried to interview those who saw the boat sailing by...


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22 Sep 2019, 5:58 pm

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