What are your thoughts about UFO,s and Aliens.

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I have seen some of the alien programmes from the history channel, the artefacts made from gold clearly look like some form of plane or flying ship, how can this be so when the people at the time Blah Blah Blah BC never knew anything about flight.

We presume human civilization were strolling around in sabor tooth skirts 14.000 years ago, and yet as we speak other civilizations are been dug up suggesting we were very smart and lived in complex societies and complex buildings as far back as 32.000 years ago.

The problem with human history is as with all memories of the past, it fades away until some concerned onlooker digs it up in the future, and then all we are left with are speculations and here say.

We should stamp a date on everything that would help.

It's 'hearsay'. Not "heresay". You 'heard' someone 'say' it.

Dont know where you heard that there was an advanced civilization 32000 years ago.

Drake-Sagan Formula

A terrible thing to waste, either way!

The Drake formula is absolute rubbish. People plug in numbers they made up. As I have pointed out, we have no way of estimating how a civilization could reach the "Star Trek" level. To conjure up numbers to that effect is self delusion.

In short, there ia absolutely no way to estimate the number of space traversing civilizations.
Imagine planets full of intelligent life, but their world has few metals and everything has to be made of wood.
Or planets full of intelligent life that lacked the ingredients for gun powder, and stalled out in the equivalent of our Middle Ages.

Since we have not yet accomplished anything like it, imagine earth like planets full of squabbling tribes who spend eons doing nothing but trying to exterminate each other.

Its not either-or. Its the problem of how many civilizations are out there AND what kind.

The last one is a bad example. We already have one earth-like planet populated by squabbling tribes who have been trying to exterminate each other for eons. And it has not stopped us at all!. In fact warfare is a major factor in speeding up technological progress.


But there is a real problem. That being that IF there were other earthlike planets they would most likely all be "water worlds".

They would have no dry land. It would be all ocean. Earth was an oddball that escaped that fate and has alternating ocean and land because of odd reasons having to do with the moon forming- or ateast thats the latest theory.

Thus all life would be marine life. Such a planet might evelve intellgent marine creatures-even ones with opposable thumbs who used stone tools.

But since they lived in the sea- these creatures could never domesticate fire. No fire means no metalurgy. No metalurgy means no radio telescopes, no rockets, and no modern technolog every evolving even after thousands of years.

So water world creatures could compose epic poems that put the illiad and the oddyssy to shame. But they could never hear our old broadcasts of Milton Berle when said broadcasts hit their planet.

I used to believe in them to the point I believed I was a contactee. I think the passing of the 2012 date shattered my belief in New Age stuff and made me more of a critical thinker. I still think the UFO phenomenon is worth considering but the fact there still hasn't been a smoking gun despite the fact everyone has a camera on their phone is pretty disappointing.

The way I see it, if earth could develop technology to develop UFOs and travel to distant planets with other life, we'd damn well jump all over that oppurtunity. So why wouldn't other planets with such technology?

If there is other intelligent life capable of producing such technology I'm sure they'd make themselves known in some capacity, and, they have not. The ideas and theories surrounding UFOs are quite ridiculous to me, what could they gain from just flying around earth, not landing, hiding? They can observe from a far distance, surely, if that technology exists.

Perhaps we are so violent, so self-destructive, so annoying that the Wise Space People know better than to get too close.

Sylkat

It is arrogant to believe that such a vast universe would be created just for us. What some alien peering through a telescope at mankind, whether seeing us as we were 600 years ago, or as we are today even, will be the same. One constant throughout history is that we kill each other with great efficiency and enthusiasm. Intelligent alien life will most certainly steer clear of Earth because we are a dangerous species.

You've been overly influenced by Carl Sagan. Arrogance has absolutely nothing to do with life in the universe. Get that out of your head right now.
We could be the only planet in our galaxy with the correct sequence of fortunate circumstances to have intelligent life. Unless you count a planet of intelligent dolphin people who were able to build cities out of rock and coral.
(That could be jolly beautiful, you know.)

Seems to me with all that technology they must have, to be able to come all this way, they wouldn't keep crashing when they got here.

Science-Fiction is fun, isn't it?

I think they do exists. They might be watching us now.

or NOT ! !! !