Why isn't it okay to share opinions even on WP?

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05 Nov 2010, 4:36 am

Okay I'm just asking why people can't handle opposing opinions? The real reason I'm asking is a few times I've posted my opinions in the Video Games section of WP... people get severely upset and start going off on me. I always state it is an opinion when I post my opinions to clarify that it is just how I feel. I get very confused when people go off on me like I posted a picture of a newspaper dated for that day of God Knighting me with the headlines "God now says Talis' word is his", to go with what I say. Seriously I get very annoyed and confused about why people act like I'm taking shots at who they are just because I post how I feel. It usually pisses me off and I try to further explain my point and it ends up pissing more people off. It gets to the point where I'll just off and remove my posts not because I want to back down from my point but that I don't want to cause more of a disturbance by leaving my posts there for others to get fired up over. I have noticed that my opinions are only shunned in the video games section and not others (Likely because I'm very critical even about the things I really like... games included. I can see faults even in the things I enjoy and have no problem stating them.). I've posted some controversial questions and gotten polite civil answers even in the religious sections or I have posted many opinions else ware here on WP like in Random Discussion or Autism Discussion and not gotten attacked. I guess it could just be the Video Game board but I don't really know. I know there are two people that when I see them in a discussion I just avoid the topic all together because I know if I say anything they'll just be complete asses but really I think there's something odd there. I mean I'm an aspie and when someone states an opinion I'd consider invalid... it deserves no response from me... why are there people that get so fired up over a simple opinion to the point that they lash out? Anyway I've already made the decision to mostly avoid the video game boards as I feel the people there are a little too immature to even talk to (Not everybody... but enough to ruin my interest of even being there). I'll still post on things pertinent to what I'm doing in my video game activities... but I've lost interest in going there just to socialize with the people there mainly because of the few people who can't handle opinions and make rash judgment of my character based on how I feel about things that are about as important as brushing your teeth twice in a row within 20 minutes :roll:

Seriously... I don't care when someone challenges my opinions, but when there are actually comments aimed toward me... I find that uncalled for. I also find it foolish and that it shows a lack of maturity and intelligence. I hope I don't start finding this in other parts of WP or I might go further than abandoning a single discussion topic and actually ditch the entire site :roll:



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05 Nov 2010, 6:53 am

Don't worry about what other people have to say, everyone is entitled to their opinions and so are you and everyone is equal but not everyone will agree with everyones opinions and can unfortunately turn into fights, but it is up to you and the other person to deal with the drama around which will sort the situation out.

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05 Nov 2010, 10:56 am

I dont know but If you spend any lengthy periods of your online life on Wp, get used to it!
happens all the time to me :pig:


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05 Nov 2010, 11:21 am

Like my mom always says: if you're not being rude but someone gets upset with what you're saying anyway, then it's their problem, not yours.



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05 Nov 2010, 12:22 pm

Aspies ( I really don't like that word at all-my opinion.) are supposed to be very rigid in their thinking. I've noticed some people get their underpants all in a bunch over some very minor stuff. People seem to take much of what is said on the internet much more seriously than it is intended too.



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05 Nov 2010, 2:13 pm

Went on a verbal tantrum last night. Now, I'm probably the biggest pariah in the Haven, if not WP.


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05 Nov 2010, 3:01 pm

I wouldn't worry about it. I don't know how many times I have been reported for my opinions. I was told about it by one of the former mods and people thought I was a troll because they didn't like my opinions.

I have also seen none aspies get upset with different opinions and they get all insulting and do attacks. I think for god sake's it's just their opinion and respect it and don't let it bother you.

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I was once listening to Mario Kart music on youtube and I posted a comment about how the newer Mario Kart games are better and it makes the N64 one lame but it's still a classic and I got a few attacks. My comment was even marked down and then it was hidden. Now people have to click "show" to read the comment. Last time I saw, it had six thumbs down.



Yeah people just can't accept an opinion that is different than theirs. People seem to feel threatened if someone attacks their likes or special interests. It be like me getting all upset if someone said AAGPBL sucks and it was gay and good thing the league folded or saying those skirts are lame and stupid or saying A League of Their own sucks and how bad the movie is because it bored them. That's how stupid it is to get upset over an opinion.



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05 Nov 2010, 3:07 pm

Opinions are like a***holes, everyone has one and their all roughly full of the same stuff.



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05 Nov 2010, 3:12 pm

Its just some people come off as sooooo self righteous. "In my opinion" carries no weight. What have you done to fancy yourself an expert?? OK, you don't like this or that, but to spout off like you're some blooming genius is off putting.


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05 Nov 2010, 4:20 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Its just some people come off as sooooo self righteous. "In my opinion" carries no weight. What have you done to fancy yourself an expert?? OK, you don't like this or that, but to spout off like you're some blooming genius is off putting.


Usually it isn't me just pulling an opinion out of thin air. I usually only post my opinions on topics like "What do you think about..." and most people don't seem to care for them not to mention the topics are for posting opinions anyway. To me an opinion is simply a personal thought and not something that defines a subject really. So my point exactly is that my opinions shouldn't annoy to the point of people lashing out since they shouldn't carry weight.



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05 Nov 2010, 4:28 pm

sluice wrote:
Aspies ( I really don't like that word at all-my opinion.) are supposed to be very rigid in their thinking. I've noticed some people get their underpants all in a bunch over some very minor stuff. People seem to take much of what is said on the internet much more seriously than it is intended too.


I guess I don't get that. I mean I am very rigid in my thinking and there is no real swaying my thoughts unless I'm given a good amount of reasoning to do so... but I'm also not obnoxious about opposing views. I definitely don't agree with opposing view points, but I don't care if others possess them. I guess maybe I generally keep to myself and don't like stirring up arguments... but I also don't see any reason to get upset with opposing views in the first place unless they directly effect my life. So yes I get mad at political opinions and can sometimes challenge a persons opinion there, but I really don't understand people getting so upset about simple things that aren't very important. I also guess I don't understand the need to directly lash out at me instead of refuting my opinion... it seems like they are more at a lack of words than anything and I just find it upsetting I guess.

I also take things literally a good bit of the time... but for some reason it still gets categorized in my head as "So and so" said this. I guess even though I may take their comment literally I still don't feel an urge to explode in their direction because I simply understand it is just how they feel and can't effect how I feel about something. I'm not saying I don't get annoyed because I have read and heard many opinions I would deem "Foolish" that really bugged me, but I see no reason to be an ass and call names... if a person persists on pushing their views I may try to push an argument against their opinion... but otherwise I usually let opinions slip through the cracks of life considering I know not everyone likes what I like and not everyone is how I am. I don't know... maybe I learned more respect having a strict father growing up.



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05 Nov 2010, 4:37 pm

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I wouldn't worry about it. I don't know how many times I have been reported for my opinions. I was told about it by one of the former mods and people thought I was a troll because they didn't like my opinions.

I have also seen none aspies get upset with different opinions and they get all insulting and do attacks. I think for god sake's it's just their opinion and respect it and don't let it bother you.

Fun fact:

I was once listening to Mario Kart music on youtube and I posted a comment about how the newer Mario Kart games are better and it makes the N64 one lame but it's still a classic and I got a few attacks. My comment was even marked down and then it was hidden. Now people have to click "show" to read the comment. Last time I saw, it had six thumbs down.



Yeah people just can't accept an opinion that is different than theirs. People seem to feel threatened if someone attacks their :wink: likes or special interests. It be like me getting all upset if someone said AAGPBL sucks and it was gay and good thing the league folded or saying those skirts are lame and stupid or saying A League of Their own sucks and how bad the movie is because it bored them. That's how stupid it is to get upset over an opinion.


The Mario Cart example type thing seems to happen to me alot. Like I'll post how I feel about something like once I posted something about how I would be a pc gamer since it has the best gaming capabilities of all but I cannot keep up with the technology financially nor do I have enough computer knowledge to do so. I then posted something like... So I just stick with my PS3. After that someone got upset with me as if I was bad mouthing the pc... and I was feeling very clueless about what was going on :?

That discussion didn't bother me that much though because at least the guy who got annoyed with me was fairly civil and refrained from name calling. I can respect that :)



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05 Nov 2010, 4:58 pm

I guess maybe I'm just taking comments against me too literally. I should probably understand that someone who just throws an insult in my direction consisting of less than 2 lines of text probably isn't even thinking very hard in the first place and probably isn't even taking a second thought about what they are posting before they hit send.

I guess it's something I'll need to learn to get used to. I just find it weird because I'd think alot of people on WP would have some very extreme or different views... so I just thought it would be safer here to express them without getting attacked, but like I've mentioned, I don't really get attacked anywhere else so I still think I stand by my decision to avoid the Video Game topic for the most part :wink:



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05 Nov 2010, 5:42 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Its just some people come off as sooooo self righteous. "In my opinion" carries no weight. What have you done to fancy yourself an expert?? OK, you don't like this or that, but to spout off like you're some blooming genius is off putting.

I frequently use phrases like "I think", "I believe" and "in my opinion" because I learned somewhere that if you use those phrases before making a statement that other people might disagree with, it's supposed to help protect you from getting attacked. It's because if you state that something is your opinion, people can't argue that you are making sweeping generalizations, and it takes away the unspoken implication that you believe that what you are saying is a fact.

I never feel like I'm some kind of self-righteous genius when I say those things, because geniuses state facts and opinions are not facts. They're thoughts and feelings.



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05 Nov 2010, 6:33 pm

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Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Its just some people come off as sooooo self righteous. "In my opinion" carries no weight. What have you done to fancy yourself an expert?? OK, you don't like this or that, but to spout off like you're some blooming genius is off putting.

I frequently use phrases like "I think", "I believe" and "in my opinion" because I learned somewhere that if you use those phrases before making a statement that other people might disagree with, it's supposed to help protect you from getting attacked. It's because if you state that something is your opinion, people can't argue that you are making sweeping generalizations, and it takes away the unspoken implication that you believe that what you are saying is a fact.

I never feel like I'm some kind of self-righteous genius when I say those things, because geniuses state facts and opinions are not facts. They're thoughts and feelings.


That's exactly how I feel now that you stated it that way. I do use phrases like I think and in my opinion just so people don't think I'm trying to state a fact. Oddly though it is still misinterpreted as I am stating something damaging to a cause just because I'm stating how I feel about something. That may even be why I feel confused when people get upset... because I'm trying to make it obvious that it's just my personal opinion. I've always viewed opinions as someones thoughts toward something so I guess maybe others see the word opinion differently.

I'm guessing there's just a misunderstanding between how much interest people place in their own personal opinions and how they view others according to the emphasis they place in theirs :? I personally only view opinions as simply a thought or feeling toward something so if someone feels differently I don't usually care unless it ultimately effects me in a real sense like if they think I should die... I should probably oppose that :wink: