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06 Dec 2010, 10:27 pm

So, I am working on developing myself. I am working out,boxing, kickboxing. All just to screw my bully up when I turn 30.


I enrolled in 9 college credits. Going to get a degree.



I ask everyone here, can someone gain intellect via working hard?



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06 Dec 2010, 10:30 pm

I will cut it short:


Intellect is one of the solid powers you can gain over indivuals. If you have a higher IQ, you will have a MASSIVE advantage over a numerous ammount of people.

How can I gain this pure power?



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06 Dec 2010, 11:21 pm

Work hard, but little is guaranteed so remember to enjoy yourself along the way.



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06 Dec 2010, 11:24 pm

I think adaptability is more important for long term success than intellect, specifically the IQ measurement. You can probably get smarter. I definitely feel like I've gotten less smart over the years! The best way to get back at that bully is to go out and live a productive and happy life. That way, when you meet him in the future, you won't have to prove yourself. Your life will have already done it for you.



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07 Dec 2010, 7:09 am

Sahmiam wrote:
I think adaptability is more important for long term success than intellect, specifically the IQ measurement. You can probably get smarter. I definitely feel like I've gotten less smart over the years! The best way to get back at that bully is to go out and live a productive and happy life. That way, when you meet him in the future, you won't have to prove yourself. Your life will have already done it for you.



That just isn't going to cut it.

I need revenge.



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07 Dec 2010, 7:27 am

Yes and no. Knowledge can be earned by working hard, and a lot of the time, intellect comes from this (and a knowledgeable person can usually feign intellect quite well.)

The critical thinking and 'logical' parts of intellect, however, come from experience and practice, however. One can easily "learn" them, but they aren't learned in the same way that one learns, say, history.


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07 Dec 2010, 7:53 am

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Can intellect be earned?


no. intellect is native.

i believe that memory and tenacity do not equal intellect.

many people with exceptional intelligence do not know much at all, while many people who know lots about many things are not gifted with exceptional intelligence.

i believe that if someone strives to increase their intelligence, they will fail. all they can hope to do is to increase the efficacy of their nascent ability.

average people with a genuine desire to succeed, and the tenacity to follow their goals, can certainly overtake those that are born with greater capacity to think, yet lesser drive to achieve.

all one can do is liberate the native intelligence they were born with in a well directed way.

i do not believe that judgment is a factor of intelligence.

if a person with an IQ of 110 makes the correct decisions of how to apply it to gain advantage, then they may may be more successful in the game of life than those who have an IQ of 160 who are stuck in quandaries and incidental examinations of things that may be irrelevant to the superficial flow of their life.
i do not believe that anyone can grow more brain cells than they were born with, but i do think that the way they are arranged can drastically influence the attitude that one has pertaining to their utility.


what blasted ever. this is not well thought out i guess. i will post this any way since i am nailed to another obligation.



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08 Dec 2010, 7:56 am

to borrow an metaphor from the world of automobiles, i'd say that there is net intelligence [as in net horsepower when parasitic drag is taken into account], which is real-world thinking power, versus gross intelligence [as in gross or potential horsepower in a car, when the engine is just on a stand with no accessories connected, and braked-down into stall]. a person with a 110 IQ can be equivalent to the lightweight sporty car with 110 horsepower that can drive circles around a 300 horsepower cadillac laden with all manner of power-sucking apps. the high-IQ-types who are too paralyzed by their mental masturbatory diversions to get anything done in the real world, are the 300 horsepower cadillacs. but there are also the geniuses with high IQ and no or few addlements/diversions, who have a streamlined cognitive torrent from thought to action, that are a force to be reckoned with. human lamborghini countachs, if you will. and short of an overhaul [like dropping a corvair engine into a superbeetle, or a super high-tech brain implant], there is no real way at present to boost one's natural neural processing throughput, to any substantial and lasting degree. there are drug therapies that can slightly boost cognitive ability, but they are experimental and with undetermined side-effects. things like caffeine and nicotine can temporarily make one think a bit more clearly and quickly, but they raise blood pressure and are not a good long-term thing to be taking. i took strattera for a few years and it made me feel more intelligent, but i didn't see any major boosts in my IQ test scores. :(

and specifically to the OP, revenge doesn't become you. you are better than the bullies, you can show 'em just by not being like them. when you stoop to revenge you are lowering yourself to a bully's standards. and from a metaphysical viewpoint, you "earn" your gifts [including intelligence] from your demonstrated karmic heritage of not harming others.



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08 Dec 2010, 8:06 am

b9 wrote:
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Can intellect be earned?


no. intellect is native.

i believe that memory and tenacity do not equal intellect.

many people with exceptional intelligence do not know much at all, while many people who know lots about many things are not gifted with exceptional intelligence.

i believe that if someone strives to increase their intelligence, they will fail. all they can hope to do is to increase the efficacy of their nascent ability.

average people with a genuine desire to succeed, and the tenacity to follow their goals, can certainly overtake those that are born with greater capacity to think, yet lesser drive to achieve.

all one can do is liberate the native intelligence they were born with in a well directed way.

i do not believe that judgment is a factor of intelligence.

if a person with an IQ of 110 makes the correct decisions of how to apply it to gain advantage, then they may may be more successful in the game of life than those who have an IQ of 160 who are stuck in quandaries and incidental examinations of things that may be irrelevant to the superficial flow of their life.
i do not believe that anyone can grow more brain cells than they were born with, but i do think that the way they are arranged can drastically influence the attitude that one has pertaining to their utility.


what blasted ever. this is not well thought out i guess. i will post this any way since i am nailed to another obligation.


No I think you've nailed it on the head actually.