Tomasu wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Plants have a spiritual life force as well. I don't see it as any better than killing animals.
We do what we need to do to keep alive, which sadly is eating multiple things with souls.
^^ I believe I find this very interesting also hale_bopp. May I please ask, do you perhaps believe that plants may suffer? If so, do you believe that they suffer as greatly as many non humans, such as pigs or sheep etc. I agree very much that one must eat to survive and unfortunately one must eat poor living beings.
However, once we conclude that we shall eat to survive and not decide to pass away, then we may ask which individuals shall we eat? I wish to eat individuals in such a way that this minimizes suffering. I personally believe that plants, vegetables etc do not suffer, therefore I believe that I shall much prefer to eat these plants as opposed to those who may suffer greatly by my eating them.
The 20th century spiritual philosopher Alan Watts discussed this. He asked an enlightened friend of his that since he knew plants do suffer, why does he even eat plants? The friend replied, Yes I know, but they don't scream as loud. That is similar to what you are saying, except you don't believe plants suffer at all. Alan Watts had reason to believe they do, and while I don't necessarily agree with all his opinions on every subject, he is still one of the most intellectually and philosophically stimulating people I have ever read of or listened to.
Joseph Campbell, a popular scholar of Comparative Mythology, discussed a hunting culture's philosophy of the animal being a willing sacrifice, in other words it comes to you willingly to be eaten, and that it's okay to kill and eat it as long as you respect it and acknowledge that you will pay it back by feeding the grass for it to eat after your own dead body goes into the ground. The Disney Lion King film expressed this too in the Circle of Life song.
Also, our bodies are made to eat and digest meat. Yes, we can get the same nutrients from plant sources, but personally I've never seen a healthy-looking pure vegetarian. The ones I've seen look anemic and sickly. That said, I do not approve of living beings treated cruelly, even if their destination is the dinner table. It's all about respect.
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