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01 Jun 2011, 12:41 pm

Okay so I like to fantasize about different things all the time and recently came up with an interesting idea. Could there be some terrible secret about humanity that only a few know, similar to the story in The Matrix? And that idea is, are neurotypicals possibly wrong about everything they do? Being an Aspie myself I like to analyze their behavior and although I want to join them in some aspects, I see many of their activities such as sex and alcohol as selfish and destructive. So what if there was some unknown power that, oh I don't know, is using something like DNA to control us? Most of the population seems to be blinded by the pusuit of "common pleasures" but there are people like me that stop and say "wait a minute, there might be something else going on here." One of my fantasies is that we all used to be immortal and had powers (but were all loners so to speak) but we somehow got infected with DNA and it cursed us all with the disease known as mortality. It then forced us to become social and sexual and cast out anyone who does not share our veiws. I know damn well that neurotypicals do not give up their ways easily and will defend and excuse them any way they can. But maybe some of us Aspies realize that there is something else out there, yet we too are cursed with mortality and its various drives (explaining why we get depressed and lonely if we don't get laid). Maybe we are "waking up" to some sort of truth, like some alien or devil is laughing as we all dance for its entertainment. I'm just saying that maybe we were never supposed to be social beings. Just because people have been acting like primates for tens of thousands of years and that genetic material has been here for nearly 4 billion might not necessarily make it right. Just a thought.



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01 Jun 2011, 1:30 pm

^^ Greetings birdsandbugs. Thank you very much for this typing this very lovely post.

I believe that I enjoy considering this happy subject verymuch and I believe that I have written of this little friend within my bloggy friend. I do hope this is alrighty that I posted a little link to this below.

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^^ Indeed, I believe there is an infinite number of possibilities as you describe. For instance, I could be part of an experiment perhaps, and all that I experience is an illusion, and my true physical part is simply a brain within a vat. Or perhaps I am within a alternate dimension and a demon is tricking me to believe that this existence is my own. Perhaps I only came into existence this morning. ^^ I believe there exists many such possibilities. However, although I believe this is very magical to acknowledge these possibilities, and certainly due to the fact that this demonstrates the limitations of one's perceptions, I believe this is also very magical to notice that if any of these possibilities were indeed the case, then there is perhaps no action I may take to relieve this situation. ^^ Indeed, if I am being deceived concerning the nature of my existence, perhaps the result of this one that this overall positive. I am very sorry that I am very silly and perhaps incorrect.

^^ I believe this is very interesting, birdandbugs, concerning your writings regarding many activities that many humans take part in, for instance, drinking alcohol. ^^ I believe that I am very frightened to drink alcohol, however I believe that this is certainly my choice. ^^ I have existed only as myself, and I find this not nice for myself to judge others for the paths they choose to take, in spite of the fact that many humans may judge others in this way (I feel that all individuals do only as they can, and what they feel to be correct, as I do).

Although I have been diagnosed with happy High Functioning Autism, I perhaps believe that this diagnosis may be incorrect - however I feel this is of my own fault and not that of the lovely lady who provided me with this diagnosis.


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01 Jun 2011, 3:34 pm

It's possible. Lots of things are possible. But is it likely? I think not.


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01 Jun 2011, 4:06 pm

If you haven't done so already, Google The Matrix and Buddhism.



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01 Jun 2011, 4:34 pm

Life is exactly like The Matrix.

Funny, was discussing this film on another forum, has it been on TV recently?

birdandbugs, your ideas are quite interesting and original to me. I like it. You should maybe write a science fiction film or novel of your own.


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01 Jun 2011, 5:31 pm

No. Read up on DNA (yes, it's been around several billion years; look at it this way instead - it's been changing for all that time) and evolution happens (it isn't "supposed" to do anything, just what works best usually but not always survives.) We do not act like primates (as if it was some recent affectation), we are primates, and primates have been around a thousand times longer (tens of million years, not tens of thousands) than you suppose. You are trying to assign causes to effects - nothing wrong with that, it's the nature of our intelligence that we try - but you are doing so without the necessary evidence or using wrong information.

You're wrong to think sex is destructive - where do you come from, again? - and alcohol is not necessarily so. That mortality is a curse is a common enough opinion, but hardly shared by all; I suspect not even a significant minority. It would make an interesting poll.

And don't assume - it's depressingly common here - that "neurotypicals" are necessarily weaker, stupider, less able, nastier, happier or whatever than us. They aren't.


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01 Jun 2011, 6:36 pm

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And don't assume - it's depressingly common here - that "neurotypicals" are necessarily weaker, stupider, less able, nastier, happier or whatever than us. They aren't.


Yep. The variation in the NT population is much like the variation within the Aspie population, only that they tend to uniformly have intrinsically better social comprehension and 'abilities'. In a way, NTs are just like aspies, but only better.



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01 Jun 2011, 6:40 pm

I think the Matrix needs it's own religion - like scientology but with a cooler, more believable backstory.

I would like to cast myself into the priesthood class as an Oracle.

"There is no spoon'. Great mantra.



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01 Jun 2011, 6:46 pm

Oh, I forgot to answer the question. No, life could not be like The Matrix -- it's just a fictional movie, for crying out loud! Jeez, kids today with them always confusing hollywood with reality. :roll:



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01 Jun 2011, 6:51 pm

swbluto wrote:
Oh, I forgot to answer the question. No, life could not be like The Matrix -- it's just a fictional movie, for crying out loud! Jeez, kids today with them always confusing hollywood with reality. :roll:



... that's what they want you to think...

Keep sleeping little sheep, keep sleeping...



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01 Jun 2011, 7:00 pm

draelynn wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Oh, I forgot to answer the question. No, life could not be like The Matrix -- it's just a fictional movie, for crying out loud! Jeez, kids today with them always confusing hollywood with reality. :roll:



... that's what they want you to think...

Keep sleeping little sheep, keep sleeping...


The red pill is a hallucinogenic, pure and simple; The blue pill, however, keeps us aware of the true reality of things and I'm not regretting my medicinal choice, lol.



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01 Jun 2011, 7:07 pm

If you swap 'DNA' for 'media' control then you may be onto something.

Btw, DNA control makes me think of the Sycorax.


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01 Jun 2011, 7:14 pm

swbluto wrote:
draelynn wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Oh, I forgot to answer the question. No, life could not be like The Matrix -- it's just a fictional movie, for crying out loud! Jeez, kids today with them always confusing hollywood with reality. :roll:



... that's what they want you to think...

Keep sleeping little sheep, keep sleeping...


The red pill is a hallucinogenic, pure and simple; The blue pill, however, keeps us aware of the true reality of things and I'm not regretting my medicinal choice, lol.


You see this is how I know I'm AS and you are NT... I don't NEED the red pill. The path of the red pill is much more fun. This is why I am priesthood class - I do not need the red pill - I'm already off the grid yet jack in at the same time...

The blue pill - everybody takes the blue pill. Been there, done that. Not as fun.

And I'm dead serious about the religion. Do you know how EASY it is to declare your own religion in this country? And assume all the tax breaks inherent to that designation?



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01 Jun 2011, 7:36 pm

draelynn wrote:
swbluto wrote:
draelynn wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Oh, I forgot to answer the question. No, life could not be like The Matrix -- it's just a fictional movie, for crying out loud! Jeez, kids today with them always confusing hollywood with reality. :roll:



... that's what they want you to think...

Keep sleeping little sheep, keep sleeping...


The red pill is a hallucinogenic, pure and simple; The blue pill, however, keeps us aware of the true reality of things and I'm not regretting my medicinal choice, lol.


You see this is how I know I'm AS and you are NT... I don't NEED the red pill. The path of the red pill is much more fun. This is why I am priesthood class - I do not need the red pill - I'm already off the grid yet jack in at the same time...

The blue pill - everybody takes the blue pill. Been there, done that. Not as fun.


Fun? Who needs fun? We just need order and a reality free from anomalies in the system, as it is a harmony of mathematical precision.

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And I'm dead serious about the religion. Do you know how EASY it is to declare your own religion in this country? And assume all the tax breaks inherent to that designation?


That's be awesome. At least the fictional origins would be more obvious to unsuspecting believers, although I'm sure people like Tom Cruise would still believe given a high enough entrance and subscription fees (Make it expensive, and celebs will follow it, and it will gain notoriety. Later on, you could charge for entrance into the 'confused follower' and 'mislead zealot' classes to appeal to the common folk. You might need euphemisms, however, like 'islamist' and 'jihadist'.)



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01 Jun 2011, 7:49 pm

No.

The universe is not computable.


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01 Jun 2011, 7:53 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
The universe is not computable.


*gasp*

Shrodinger's Wave Equation is certainly computable! Maybe a given quantum interaction isn't directly calculable other than probabilistically, but the aggregate of such interactions is deterministic.