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06 Jan 2013, 4:14 pm

Too much black-and-white, all-or-nothing, concrete thinking.

I guess it's my level of AS or something. I just don't feel like I have a place here.

Bye.



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06 Jan 2013, 4:22 pm

I don't mean to be critical in saying this but:

Your post is a perfect example of the kind of black and white thinking you're talking about.

There's a lot of people like that here but there are also a lot of people who see things as they really are i.e. shades of grey. I think some allowance must be made also for the fact that this is a forum full of autistic people and people with stuff like depression and OCD. Black and white thinking will be par for the course sometimes.

Unless you've really upset someone or someone has really upset you there almost certainly *is* a place for you here. I quit rather melodramatically for several months but then I realised that as much as some rubbish is talked and there are some unpleasant people here there are also plenty of really nice people who comprise an invaluable and irreplaceable resource - I challenge you to find an autism forum with 1/10th as many posts as this one AND on top of that all the others are full of people talking about homeopathy and vitamin "cure" rubbish.

Unless I'm missing something really big I hope you'll reconsider; WP has kept me sane on a number of occasions and, unless you are truly the misfit of a forum full of misfits (unlikely), then you can probably gain some benefit from being here.

If you still disagree then good luck and I hope you find what you're looking for elsewhere.



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06 Jan 2013, 4:46 pm

Sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme(black/white) terms not autistic people. I personally view things pretty moderately.



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06 Jan 2013, 5:38 pm

Hitler was the perfect example of a Sociopath.

If this is about the thread you made in The Haven, I apologize that my opinion hurt you.


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06 Jan 2013, 5:38 pm

byebye now



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06 Jan 2013, 5:43 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Hitler was the perfect example of a Sociopath.



lol, Yeah it's funny how Nazi is short for "National Socialist Party" since the word in bold sounds like sociopath. :idea:



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07 Jan 2013, 4:01 pm

WP isn't for everyone, like anything else in life... Some like it, some loathe it (while some are neutral).



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07 Jan 2013, 9:16 pm

Venger wrote:
Sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme(black/white) terms not autistic people. I personally view things pretty moderately.


Oh, great. Because I think in terms of black and white, I'm a sociopath. :?



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07 Jan 2013, 9:31 pm

Venger wrote:
Sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme(black/white) terms not autistic people. I personally view things pretty moderately.


There are a lot of examples of very black and white thinking on these boards. Ever read the PPR forum? I would argue that the strong need for routine and for things to be a certain way that many autistic people have could be considered an example of black and white thinking. Also: anxiety disorders of various types (including OCD) and depression are easily the most common mental illnesses and they both often have a strong component of black and white thinking. A lot of autistic people also have those conditions. To say that "sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme(black/white) terms" is inaccurate. I also think it was an ill conceived statement because I suspect that the following quote does not represent the only person who had that reaction to your statement:

noxnocturne wrote:
Oh, great. Because I think in terms of black and white, I'm a sociopath. :?



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07 Jan 2013, 9:50 pm

invisiblesilent wrote:
Venger wrote:
Sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme(black/white) terms not autistic people. I personally view things pretty moderately.


There are a lot of examples of very black and white thinking on these boards. Ever read the PPR forum? I would argue that the strong need for routine and for things to be a certain way that many autistic people have could be considered an example of black and white thinking. Also: anxiety disorders of various types (including OCD) and depression are easily the most common mental illnesses and they both often have a strong component of black and white thinking. A lot of autistic people also have those conditions. To say that "sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme(black/white) terms" is inaccurate. I also think it was an ill conceived statement because I suspect that the following quote does not represent the only person who had that reaction to your statement:



I'm pretty sure thinking in extreme terms isn't required for an autistic diagnosis like it is for an ASPD diagnosis though. The OP seemed to be implying that everybody on WP thinks that way which isn't true obviously. I told him sociopaths are the main ones that think in extreme terms but not the only ones.

It's funny how you and noxnocturne perceived what I said in extreme terms though. :roll:



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07 Jan 2013, 10:31 pm

Venger wrote:
It's funny how you and noxnocturne perceived what I said in extreme terms though. :roll:


I wouldn't say I perceived it in extreme terms :p I just didn't feel that it was correct to say "not autistic people" and I was feeling pedantic; pedantry also being the reason for this post :p I have no taste for an argument this evening so I shall stop my pedantry now ;) FTR: I'm definitely not a sociopath. Of course, that is what a sociopath would say :p *evil glare* (and just to be *totally* sure there is no misunderstanding - the evil glare was a joke :p)



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07 Jan 2013, 11:18 pm

Grue wrote:
Too much black-and-white, all-or-nothing, concrete thinking.

I guess it's my level of AS or something. I just don't feel like I have a place here.

Bye.


Sorry to hear your leaving. Are you sure you have given the site a long enough try?