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04 Sep 2014, 11:51 pm

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all I know, is that Canadians have been availing themselves to decent non-bankrupting health care for almost as long as I've been alive, but only this year have I been able to get decent affordable healthcare of similar quality [thanks to obamacare :) ]. if I had been Canadian from the gitgo, I wouldn't have had to live on the health care edge all these years.


Things have become a bit more privatised here over the years, but even still we have a universal health care system. That is one thing that most Canadians would never give up. I could never live anywhere that didn't have a universal health care system. Ours isn't without its problems, but to me that is a basic right and I can't imagine ever feeling otherwise. When I hear people saying that it's "socialist" and therefor evil it just sounds like insanity to me. I can't even begin to understand where those people are coming from. lol


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04 Sep 2014, 11:52 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
all I know, is that Canadians have been availing themselves to decent non-bankrupting health care for almost as long as I've been alive, but only this year have I been able to get decent affordable healthcare of similar quality [thanks to obamacare :) ]. if I had been Canadian from the gitgo, I wouldn't have had to live on the health care edge all these years.


Things have become a bit more privatised here over the years, but even still we have a universal health care system. That is one thing that most Canadians would never give up. I could never live anywhere that didn't have a universal health care system. Ours isn't without its problems, but to me that is a basic right and I can't imagine ever feeling otherwise. When I hear people saying that it's "socialist" and therefor evil it just sounds like insanity to me. I can't even begin to understand where those people are coming from. lol

where those people are coming from, is something akin to "let them die!" IOW they would literally let people suffer and die.



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04 Sep 2014, 11:58 pm

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where those people are coming from, is something akin to "let them die!" IOW they would literally let people suffer and die.


Yeah, I don't get it. lol Health Care is one of those things I'll never take for granted.

When I was 15 a friend of mine moved to the Houston area so I went there for 3 weeks the following summer to visit them. Luckily my mom bought me traveler's insurance because after swimming in their pool every night for a week I ended up with the worst ear infection in the history of ear infections. It was so swollen that I couldn't hear out of it and I was in so much pain that I couldn't sleep. So, I ended up having to use my insurance to go to the ER to get some antibiotics. Months later we ended up getting paper work in the mail just for our own records and I remember seeing the charges for the visit. 8O I can't really remember how much it was, but it was way more than I ever imagined, just to sit in the waiting room for an hour (there was an entire family in there with food poisoning, keeping the doctors busy lol), and then seeing a doctor for all of 3 minutes so he could give me a prescription.

I couldn't even tell you how much it costs when I go see my family doctor here.


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05 Sep 2014, 12:02 am

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auntblabby wrote:
where those people are coming from, is something akin to "let them die!" IOW they would literally let people suffer and die.


Yeah, I don't get it. lol Health Care is one of those things I'll never take for granted.

When I was 15 a friend of mine moved to the Houston area so I went there for 3 weeks the following summer to visit them. Luckily my mom bought me traveler's insurance because after swimming in their pool every night for a week I ended up with the worst ear infection in the history of ear infections. It was so swollen that I couldn't hear out of it and I was in so much pain that I couldn't sleep. So, I ended up having to use my insurance to go to the ER to get some antibiotics. Months later we ended up getting paper work in the mail just for our own records and I remember seeing the charges for the visit. 8O I can't really remember how much it was, but it was way more than I ever imagined, just to sit in the waiting room for an hour (there was an entire family in there with food poisoning, keeping the doctors busy lol), and then seeing a doctor for all of 3 minutes so he could give me a prescription.

I couldn't even tell you how much it costs when I go see my family doctor here.

a shattered elbow two years ago cost me $53k. the average ER visit is about $3k. average out of pocket doc's office visit is $500.



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05 Sep 2014, 12:08 am

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auntblabby wrote:
where those people are coming from, is something akin to "let them die!" IOW they would literally let people suffer and die.


Yeah, I don't get it. lol Health Care is one of those things I'll never take for granted.

When I was 15 a friend of mine moved to the Houston area so I went there for 3 weeks the following summer to visit them. Luckily my mom bought me traveler's insurance because after swimming in their pool every night for a week I ended up with the worst ear infection in the history of ear infections. It was so swollen that I couldn't hear out of it and I was in so much pain that I couldn't sleep. So, I ended up having to use my insurance to go to the ER to get some antibiotics. Months later we ended up getting paper work in the mail just for our own records and I remember seeing the charges for the visit. 8O I can't really remember how much it was, but it was way more than I ever imagined, just to sit in the waiting room for an hour (there was an entire family in there with food poisoning, keeping the doctors busy lol), and then seeing a doctor for all of 3 minutes so he could give me a prescription.

I couldn't even tell you how much it costs when I go see my family doctor here.

a shattered elbow two years ago cost me $53k. the average ER visit is about $3k. average out of pocket doc's office visit is $500.


Wow..... I can't even imagine having to fend for myself under those kinds of circumstances.


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05 Sep 2014, 12:09 am

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auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
where those people are coming from, is something akin to "let them die!" IOW they would literally let people suffer and die.


Yeah, I don't get it. lol Health Care is one of those things I'll never take for granted.

When I was 15 a friend of mine moved to the Houston area so I went there for 3 weeks the following summer to visit them. Luckily my mom bought me traveler's insurance because after swimming in their pool every night for a week I ended up with the worst ear infection in the history of ear infections. It was so swollen that I couldn't hear out of it and I was in so much pain that I couldn't sleep. So, I ended up having to use my insurance to go to the ER to get some antibiotics. Months later we ended up getting paper work in the mail just for our own records and I remember seeing the charges for the visit. 8O I can't really remember how much it was, but it was way more than I ever imagined, just to sit in the waiting room for an hour (there was an entire family in there with food poisoning, keeping the doctors busy lol), and then seeing a doctor for all of 3 minutes so he could give me a prescription.

I couldn't even tell you how much it costs when I go see my family doctor here.

a shattered elbow two years ago cost me $53k. the average ER visit is about $3k. average out of pocket doc's office visit is $500.


Wow..... I can't even imagine having to fend for myself under those kinds of circumstances.

in large swaths [south/Midwest] of America, if you're the wrong color or class, you are lucky to not be in jail or even to be allowed to live! we still had de facto slavery until shortly before WWII! we now have bona fide privately run debtor's prisons! we have a Ferguson city police force calling black citizens "f**king animals!" the only thing preventing a total reverse robin hood is the democratic party still in [some] power at the federal level at least.



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05 Sep 2014, 12:17 am

We have a far right government here at the moment, and we've had them for FAR too long in my opinion. lol Luckily we have a federal election coming in 2015, so here's hoping it will be the last we see of them. When I'm complaining about Canada nowadays it's usually because of something the government is doing.


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05 Sep 2014, 12:19 am

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We have a far right government here at the moment, and we've had them for FAR too long in my opinion. lol Luckily we have a federal election coming in 2015, so here's hoping it will be the last we see of them. When I'm complaining about Canada nowadays it's usually because of something the government is doing.

you are so fortunate to belong to a commonwealth nation and not America.



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05 Sep 2014, 12:30 am

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Nights_Like_These wrote:
We have a far right government here at the moment, and we've had them for FAR too long in my opinion. lol Luckily we have a federal election coming in 2015, so here's hoping it will be the last we see of them. When I'm complaining about Canada nowadays it's usually because of something the government is doing.

you are so fortunate to belong to a commonwealth nation and not America.


If only belonging to the commonwealth made it easier to immigrate! lol

I could honestly never live in the U.S. I go there often because I'm so close (and gas is cheaper, even with the exchange lol), but even though everything looks relatively similar there, it's always felt sort of like another planet to me. lol You KNOW you're not in Canada when you're there.

(edit: which isn't to say I have a problem with the people or anything like that, everyone is still nice and such)


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05 Sep 2014, 12:40 am

it is at least [if not harder] as hard for any American of average means who has no blood relations in Canada, to live in Canada or even visit if there is so much as a traffic ticket on his or her record, this news came out when thousands of americans were denied entry during the last winter Olympics.



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05 Sep 2014, 12:42 am

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it is at least [if not harder] as hard for any American of average means who has no blood relations in Canada, to live in Canada or even visit if there is so much as a traffic ticket on his or her record, this news came out when thousands of americans were denied entry during the last winter Olympics.


That actually goes both ways. The U.S. denies entry to those with criminal records on this side as well, even sometimes when they've received a formal pardon.


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05 Sep 2014, 12:45 am

Ironically, many countries don't allow you to immigrate if you have autism (any serious disability where there's a high chance you'll need social support).

I bet Canada doesn't let you in with such (basing this on Oz and the US).



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05 Sep 2014, 12:56 am

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Ironically, many countries don't allow you to immigrate if you have autism (any serious disability where there's a high chance you'll need social support).

I bet Canada doesn't let you in with such (basing this on Oz and the US).


I'm not entirely sure about Canada in that regard, but I know when I looked into immigrating to the UK once, if you weren't planning to work while living there, you have to prove that you can financially support yourself before they'd even consider letting you in. Our current government has made some pretty drastic changes to our immigration laws over the last few years so I'm not entirely sure where we stand on that sort of stuff now.


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05 Sep 2014, 1:01 am

despite climate change, the world is growing [emotionally] colder. I hope conservatism passes into history before it is too late.



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05 Sep 2014, 2:23 am

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how many towns do you have, that have as blatantly bigoted a police force and white power structure, as Ferguson MO?


Lots. We have Edmonton, Racist and bigoted.

One prairie towns cops have been accused of giving trouble drunk natives the "Starlight Tour" out to the middle of nowhere in the dead of winter with no coats or shoes. They find them in the spring sometimes. -->LINK To the Wiki LINK<--

Winter here really is as bad as I make it out to be. Drunk people freeze to death all the time in the city, steps from their own warm homes.

*EDIT*

What used to be a very racist place, The Tar Pit: Ft McMurray... Ft McMoney.. Also Known As: SITE ("I work at Site"), has been totally and completely inundated with Foreign Temporary Workers..... -->LINK<-- LOL.

Karma.

(Go to youtube and search for "I work at site" or "fort mcmurray steve", the cartoons are no joke)


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