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ARW_AS
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20 Mar 2007, 12:06 pm

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In 1941, our Australian Prime Minister John Curtin, declared in a speech that

"Without any inhibitions of any kind, I make it quite clear that Australia turns to America, free of any pangs as to our traditional links or kindship with the United Kingdom"

I love this quote because it is signicant to a strong turn in Australia's history. After having thousands of men sacrificed in WWII by Britain, Australia finally decided that our ties to Britain were not strong enough to have so many of us slaughtered at the hands of a nation who thought us no better than the petty theives and convincts that they'd sent to the penal colonies over 100 years earlier. Our nation was doing more than its fair share of supporting the war effort, and even though we ended up being screwed by the US as well, the damage to Australia-Britain relations was already done.


Never knew that. Can I not like Churchill anymore?

Even if so, I'll try and rat my way out of it by saying I'm Scottish...

*Not being facetious, as regarding the question anyway*



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20 Mar 2007, 1:14 pm

ARW_AS wrote:
Never knew that. Can I not like Churchill anymore?


We are moving somewhat off topic, but it is important to keep it in mind that no single person from any time period will ever meet our personal definitions of the ideal. Once admires Jefferson, and Washington despite the fact they owned slaves, not because of it. Abraham Lincoln's view on race (particular in regards to American Indians) would be considered far from the modern ideal yet he is still considered by most historians to be either the greatest or one of the greatest American Presidents.

Churchill was not perfect, and had a rather complicated career. However, this does not diminish his positive achievements, and he still remains one of the true giants of the twentieth century.



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20 Mar 2007, 1:24 pm

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. All progress, therefore, depends upon the unreasonable man.

George Bernard Shaw



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20 Mar 2007, 6:53 pm

Great minds talk about ideas, mediocre minds talk about events, small minds talk about people.

Eleanor Roosevelt

When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other.

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

The idle mind knows not what it wants.

Ennius

Houses are built to live in, not to look on; therefore, let use be preferred before uniformity, except where both may be had.

Sir Francis Bacon (1561 - 1626), Essays: Of Building, 1623


Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed.

Herman Melville (1819 - 1891)

O! many a shaft, at random sent,
Finds mark the archer little meant;
And many a word, at random spoken,
May soothe or wound a heart that's broken!

Sir Walter Scott (1771 - 1832)

Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.

Henry David Thoreau (1817 - 1862)

A book is like a garden carried in the pocket.

Chinese Proverb


"I have often regretted my speech, never my silence."
- Xenocrates (396-314 B.C.)

"Wise men make proverbs, but fools repeat them."
- Samuel Palmer (1805-80)

"Good teaching is one-fourth preparation and three-fourths theater."
- Gail Godwin

"Anything that is too stupid to be spoken is sung."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)

"Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
- Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)

"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

"Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo."
- H. G. Wells (1866-1946)

"If a man does his best, what else is there?"
- General George S. Patton (1885-1945)

"The artist is nothing without the gift, but the gift is nothing without work."
- Emile Zola (1840-1902)

"I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

"I don't know why we are here, but I'm pretty sure that it is not in order to enjoy ourselves."
- Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889-1951)

"The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad."
- Salvador Dali (1904-1989)

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."
- Plato (427-347 B.C.)

"Maybe this world is another planet's Hell."
- Aldous Huxley (1894-1963)

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth."
- Umberto Eco

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."
- Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

"It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts."
- G. B. Burgin

Chew on those for a while. I have more.


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20 Mar 2007, 7:32 pm

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"I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire



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20 Mar 2007, 7:42 pm

"In my lifetime, we've gone from Eisenhower to George W. Bush. We've gone from John F. Kennedy to Al Gore. If this is evolution, I believe that in 12 years, we'll be voting for plants."

-Lewis Black


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20 Mar 2007, 8:31 pm

"The man who can keep going once the effort becomes painful is the one who will win."

Roger Bannister



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20 Mar 2007, 9:05 pm

"Apollinaris, physician of the Emperor Titus, had a good sh*t here!"

Preserved inscription found on an ancient bathroom wall in Pompeii, circa 75AD.



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21 Mar 2007, 1:02 am

When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there
Who put forth the proposition, that you can petition the lord with prayer
Petition the lord with prayer, petition the lord with prayer?
You cannot petition the lord with prayer!

Jim Morrison



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21 Mar 2007, 1:07 am

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"Never Whistle While You're Pissing" Hagbard Celine.



Does Barbie come with Ken?" he asked the perky saleswoman.

"Actually no," she answered slyly, "Barbie comes with G.I. Joe—she fakes it with Ken."



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21 Mar 2007, 9:11 am

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21 Mar 2007, 9:40 am

I am too much of a sceptic to deny the possibility of anything.

T. H Huxley, letter to Herbert Spencer (1886)