Do you feel in between in terms of gender?

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11 Jul 2015, 11:34 am

I do. I'm male. I like cars and tools (typical guy interests) I also like romantic comedies (typical female interests).



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11 Jul 2015, 11:37 am

In a lot of ways yes. I'm female but there are very few ways in which I'm at all feminine. But I don't feel completely like a guy either. I'm not too sure, does sort of feel in between. I don't really think much about it, just always been this way I guess.



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11 Jul 2015, 11:43 am

I feel like neither rather than in between. I'm biologically male. I just don't like the idea of traditional gender roles etc and always try not to conform.



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11 Jul 2015, 5:03 pm

I'm born female but inside I don't really have any gender.


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11 Jul 2015, 8:29 pm

I'm a male but I hate sports & I wanted the female role with dating & relationships. I felt confused like I was born the wrong gender sometimes cuz of it.


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11 Jul 2015, 10:20 pm

I was born female, but I know that I'm male on the inside and I also feel the phantom maleness. There are too many people in my life who take for granted that people love being called by their birth genders. It drives me crazy when people call Barb and I ladies, because those people expect me to be proud of my birth gender and I'm really not. I feel a rush of excitement when people call me a man. Having a Mick Avory-like face and appearance is a blessing for me. Most people can't tell my biological gender and I don't get the male attention and flattery that I'm allergic to.


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11 Jul 2015, 10:30 pm

I don't typically ascribe to all ideals of what an "American" man should be, whatever that is, but other than that I'm pretty hetero. Than again in the end of the day honestly everyone has the capacity to be Bisexual, as public sexuality really is determined by culture. Ever heard of Bonobos, our close cousins.



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13 Jul 2015, 5:09 am

People seem to be over thinking it.

Men have always liked women things and vice versa, and that's called "normal".



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14 Jul 2015, 1:50 am

Dillogic wrote:
People seem to be over thinking it.

Men have always liked women things and vice versa, and that's called "normal".


Pretty much.
"Oh, I lifted weights yesterday, I must be a guy! But on the weekend I liked the way I looked in a dress. I must be some kind of genderfluid person."
No, it's called "not fitting a stereotype".


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14 Jul 2015, 2:01 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
People seem to be over thinking it.

Men have always liked women things and vice versa, and that's called "normal".


Pretty much.
"Oh, I lifted weights yesterday, I must be a guy! But on the weekend I liked the way I looked in a dress. I must be some kind of genderfluid person."
No, it's called "not fitting a stereotype".

Well, I agree to an extent. But I see gender differently to how most people seem to. I distinguish it from sex, and see it as the stereotypes associated with the sex. So someone with the sex of a male, for example, would fit the gender of a male to some degree, whether a small or large degree or somewhere in between.

I am biologically female, but with no particular gender really because I don't conform to either to enough of a degree. I am very happy to be called "she". I struggle to understand the desire for people of a particular sex, but identifying strongly with the opposite gender, to be referred to as the gender they identify as rather than the sex. What is wrong with being called "she", because you are biologically female, even if you behave/think/etc like a "stereotypical male"? It's the existence of the whole gender stereotype thing that causes dysphoria in many people, I think. I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.



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14 Jul 2015, 2:12 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.

So instead we identify people by their sex? But how would you know that? Just asking them to whip out their genitals? 8O

But in all seriousness, how would that work? Because there are quite a lot of differences between males and females beyond "social constructs" or whatever.



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14 Jul 2015, 2:26 am

iliketrees wrote:
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I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.

So instead we identify people by their sex? But how would you know that? Just asking them to whip out their genitals? 8O

But in all seriousness, how would that work? Because there are quite a lot of differences between males and females beyond "social constructs" or whatever.

People get it wrong all the time anyway...we decide to call someone "he" or "she" based on whether they look biologically male or female, usually, don't we? There are plenty of countries that don't have a word for gender and don't recognise the concept.



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14 Jul 2015, 2:27 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.

So instead we identify people by their sex? But how would you know that? Just asking them to whip out their genitals? 8O

But in all seriousness, how would that work? Because there are quite a lot of differences between males and females beyond "social constructs" or whatever.

People get it wrong all the time anyway...we decide to call someone "he" or "she" based on whether they look biologically male or female, usually, don't we? There are plenty of countries that don't have a word for gender and don't recognise the concept.

And there are also countries where even objects have genders so what would happen there? 8O



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14 Jul 2015, 2:31 am

iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.

So instead we identify people by their sex? But how would you know that? Just asking them to whip out their genitals? 8O

But in all seriousness, how would that work? Because there are quite a lot of differences between males and females beyond "social constructs" or whatever.

People get it wrong all the time anyway...we decide to call someone "he" or "she" based on whether they look biologically male or female, usually, don't we? There are plenty of countries that don't have a word for gender and don't recognise the concept.

And there are also countries where even objects have genders so what would happen there? 8O

What do you mean what would happen? I guess when I say "rather it just disappeared", I mean that it went away like it never existed. The fact that exists in my society means it would be very hard to get rid of. People identify with genders because they have grown up being taught about the concept, so yeah it would be a mess to try to take it away now.



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14 Jul 2015, 2:32 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.

So instead we identify people by their sex? But how would you know that? Just asking them to whip out their genitals? 8O

But in all seriousness, how would that work? Because there are quite a lot of differences between males and females beyond "social constructs" or whatever.

People get it wrong all the time anyway...we decide to call someone "he" or "she" based on whether they look biologically male or female, usually, don't we? There are plenty of countries that don't have a word for gender and don't recognise the concept.

And there are also countries where even objects have genders so what would happen there? 8O

What do you mean what would happen? I guess when I say "rather it just disappeared", I mean that it went away like it never existed. The fact that exists in my society means it would be very hard to get rid of. People identify with genders because they have grown up being taught about the concept, so yeah it would be a mess to try to take it away now.

I mean what would happen to the language in general? The grammar rules? Just everything in languages where objects have genders.



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14 Jul 2015, 2:38 am

iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
I don't like the concept of gender and would rather it just disappeared.

So instead we identify people by their sex? But how would you know that? Just asking them to whip out their genitals? 8O

But in all seriousness, how would that work? Because there are quite a lot of differences between males and females beyond "social constructs" or whatever.

People get it wrong all the time anyway...we decide to call someone "he" or "she" based on whether they look biologically male or female, usually, don't we? There are plenty of countries that don't have a word for gender and don't recognise the concept.

And there are also countries where even objects have genders so what would happen there? 8O

What do you mean what would happen? I guess when I say "rather it just disappeared", I mean that it went away like it never existed. The fact that exists in my society means it would be very hard to get rid of. People identify with genders because they have grown up being taught about the concept, so yeah it would be a mess to try to take it away now.

I mean what would happen to the language in general? The grammar rules? Just everything in languages where objects have genders.

Do they have genders, or sexes? I don't know, I only speak English. But languages do have to change with demand. Like there are new gender pronouns emerging that we must learn to incorporate into our language (e.g. xe, ze, they), and they basically require the person to let everyone know which one they want us to use, because there's no way to tell or guess by looking at them, which you can more easily do by guessing their sex.