Apparitions in Fatima - UFO

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Did you ever come across the theory that what the kids in Fatima saw, was actually aliens from another planet, trying to deliver us some message, which got misinterpreted? Professor Joaquim Fernandes analyzed the whole situation and came to the conclusion that the phenomenon from Fatima, was not a Marian aparition but a cosmic, alien one. It was very, veeeery similar to what the people who saw UFO describe now. Like the "Mary" was originally described as someone looking like an alien - with big black eyes, wearing something that didn't look like the clothes worn by people in her times but rather like something an alien could wear. The "flowers", the "roses" falling from the sky at the time of the apparitions looked like white flakes observed by those who saw UFO, dropping from the sky. And what young Jacinta died of, looked very like lung tumor caused by radioactivity, as it's observed now. There are books on this. What do you think?

Interesting.

But its like a book mentioned in another book I read that claimed that "King Arthur must have came from Atlantis". Its explaining one unknown with another unknown.

Never heard of flakes falling from the sky when folks see ufos.

But it is interesting that the original descriptions of "Mary" had her looking like a grey alien.

Most likely- apparitions of Mary, AND grey aliens, and the 'grey hag' people have seen for centuries, are all symptoms of the same mental phenom. Something like dream aphnya. Nothing to do with either aliens nor angels nor the mother of christ.

The human mind must create the image of a grey alien in some situation. Then it gets distorted by cultural interpretation: in one time and place its the blessed virgin, another its an avatar of Krishna, in another its a space alien.

Joaquim Hernandes wrote three books on this topic, he investigated the whole case thoroughy. HEAVENLY LIGHTS: The Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO Phenomenon, Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident and Fatima Revisited: The Apparition Phenomenon In Ufology, Psychology, and Science create the Fatima Trilogy, in which the authors studied the whole case of this unexplained phenomena, reaching the facts that aren't typically exposed to people who naively believe that it was the Jewish teenager who two millenia ago gave birth without having had sex, previously, who appeared in Fatima. He got access to the read documents from Fatima, which were censored at the beginning. He investigated the details of the apparitions, which have a LOT of in common with what people who saw UFO's reported: the sounds of buzzing,heat waves, weird shaped "clouds" around, "angel hair" falling from the sky etc. The creature that the children saw was wearing a short, knee-length robe (remember: back then, showing your legs in the public when you were a woman was as shocking as now showing your bare breasts), was abnormally short and looked like a girl in her early teens. The image of it got distorted by in what way illiterate and religious people interpreted what they saw.

I encountered a theory that it was Lucia who made everything up, she was known for being a girl who liked making up stories and being in the center of attention, nevertheless the fact that there were those phenomena like "the dancing sun" shows that there was something more to this than just a joke made up by a calculating girl (who, anyway, regardless of her smartness, was deprived of access to education so couldn't have a lot of knowledge to base on, to fabricate this, unlike for example myself,, assuming I lived then and there). Anyway, a girl who made this up to be famous, wouldn't rather be the type of person who would let anyone be locked up in a cloister for the rest of her life. That's sad, anyway, how those kids renounced the natural pleasures of life and for example starved, to follow the instructions of someone who was just a mere alien (most likely) who liked to make fun of those silly earthlings Pathetic.

I guess those alien astronauts get bored. All of that abducting, prodding, examining, taking sperm samples from, and putting implants into, the local fauna.

I guess they get their jollies at our expense evey now and again!


The dancing sun incident does sound more like a flying saucer than anything the real sun would do.

So, assuming UFO's are real, then it would make sense to opine that the whole thing ( lady appearing to the children, and the subsequent dancing sun) was the rare occasion when an alien advertised in advance to us earthlings that one of their alien craft would appear, and do some barnstorming for us at a particular time and place. So, unlike most ufo encounters, in this case you had a crowd of tens of thousands gathered to see the event instead of the usual lone motorist getting ambushed by a flying saucer at night on a lonely highway.

And then the earthings involved, being medeaval thinking peasants, got the whole thing conflated with Catholic theology.


But if you dont assume UFOs are real than it doesnt make anymore sense than it being an actual miracle.

I had never, ever heard that in any vision of Mary she appeared in a short garment....this is very important, because the historical Mary/Miriam/Maryam would certainly NOT have worn any immodest apparel.

In addition, this is not something that children of that time and place (Fatima) would have made up.

Please give more detail of the unusual 'alien-like' appearance of the woman the children saw.


Thank you, Sylkat

True, it's like they described the woman having bare breasts, not covered by any dress, in terms of morality of that time. So, according to the description, she was wearing a mantle on her head which fell down and had two or three strings on it hanging around her arms. She had black eyes and when she spoke, she didn't move her mouth. In her arms she was carrying a ball that was shiny but later on the original ball was replaced with a heart in the stories told later on. She had round earings in her ears and her skirt wasn't only short but also tight and narrow. She was described as being just... one meter tall at best and looked "like a very pretty doll". She had no shoes but just socks (unknown back in Mary's time). Around her neck she had a gold chain with a medallion. Earrings, a necklace with a pendant - like any other fashionable woman. So you see, "Mary" was a BS.

Thank you so much for this information.....this is NOT what the official version tells us.

UFO conspiracists are so easy to fool.
When I was younger I used to make cropcircles with a bunch of others a couple of times, just to see what would happen. Very funny indeed.

Anyone else?

The problem with having only verbal descriptions of supposed supernatural events, is that you have nothing you can actually rely on as fact. And analysis or different explanations really don't add any credibility. To do that you would need evidence.

But think about it. Statistically, life elsewhere is considered probable, and possibly intelligent and capable of space flight. Imagine however, it was us visiting or contacting other planets, something we attempt in a minor way btw. How would we go about it? Would we abduct individuals or land secretly and spook some locals? Would we fly around their sky not identiying ourselves? Would we choose to appear to a few kids?

Just as the same laws of physics will apply to them, if they are highly technical, so too must basic concepts of logic.

Lol. Ok, well then how about this...

It was not an alien. It was the surviving lifeforce of a being that lived on earth Billenia ago. It was part of a super advanced race that was basically wiped out by some cosmic catacylisim like a nearby explodeing star or something. A few of the beings survived in part, when the explosive blast of heat in a way seared part of their conconcious into a certain rare type of rock composition. They can live indefinately, unless the rock formation is broken up/destroyed. It is not known how many are still alive today, but it is estimated to likely be less then 20 individuals.

Was that Scientology?

No, not Scientology. Actually I don't have a name for it yet. But for only $199,999.99 in small bills, I will establish that one of these quartzite astro souls lives on your property.

Right.

Scientology.

Or, possibly one of David Icke's ideas.