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17 Jul 2022, 11:04 am

I've heard some people say it is. They say that people can't identify as gay and a Christian at the same time.



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17 Jul 2022, 11:25 am

One wouldn't engage in homosexual activity as a true Christian, the same as one wouldn't engage in heterosexual fornication as a true Christian. Because the idea of being a Christian is to reject sin and obey God. To go by the standard of, what would Jesus do and not do.



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17 Jul 2022, 12:28 pm

No, people can be gay Christians. A Christian is a follower of Jesus. Jesus never said anything against homosexuality. If people identify as Christian, they are Christian.

There are some scriptures against homosexuality in the Bible, but they weren't said by Jesus. Not all Christians rigidly view the entire Bible as coming straight from God. It gets somewhat arbitrary as to which religious writings were or weren't included in the Bible, anyway. It's not a cohesive work with a single message. Also, while interesting from a historical perspective, not everything is going to be applicable for our day.


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17 Jul 2022, 1:11 pm

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Jesus never said anything against homosexuality.


https://www.str.org/w/jesus-didn-t-say- ... osexuality
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Sixth, Jesus does basically say homosexual behavior is a sin. In Mark 7:21–23, Jesus says, “For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery...all these evils come from inside and defile a person.” The Greek word translated “sexual immorality” is porneiai, which is a term that includes many sexual sins, including homosexuality. First century Jews who heard that word would think of the sexual sins listed in the Mosaic Law, which includes homosexual sex.
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If you’ve ever claimed that Scripture says homosexual behavior is a sin, there’s a good chance someone tried to correct you with, “Jesus never said anything about homosexuality.” It doesn’t matter what Bible verse bolsters your claim, Jesus’ silence on the matter allegedly trumps all other considerations. Here are seven reasons why this objection doesn’t work.

First of all, Jesus didn’t need to say anything about homosexuality. No first century Jew questioned whether homosexual sex was morally permissible. That’s because every Old Testament reference, poem, or metaphor that addresses sex and marriage in a positive way presumes heterosexual relations. Furthermore, every reference to homosexuality in the Old Testament is negative. There was no debate as to what the biblical witness was on that behavior. God-fearing Jews already believed homosexual sex was prohibited.
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17 Jul 2022, 1:20 pm

"And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love." Corinthians 13


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"Gay Christian" isn't an oxymoron, but "Bigoted Christian" is.


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17 Jul 2022, 1:23 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Jesus never said anything against homosexuality.


https://www.str.org/w/jesus-didn-t-say- ... osexuality
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Sixth, Jesus does basically say homosexual behavior is a sin. In Mark 7:21–23, Jesus says, “For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery...all these evils come from inside and defile a person.” The Greek word translated “sexual immorality” is porneiai, which is a term that includes many sexual sins, including homosexuality. First century Jews who heard that word would think of the sexual sins listed in the Mosaic Law, which includes homosexual sex.


You can believe whatever you want to but Jesus still didn’t specifically say that homosexuality is a sin. Porneia is a vague term.

I’m an atheist, by the way.

I’m just saying that gay Christians are Christians. It’s not an oxymoron.


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17 Jul 2022, 3:07 pm

It depends on the denomination or church, some denominations and churches are open to homosexuality.


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17 Jul 2022, 3:13 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
It depends on the denomination or church, some denominations and churches are open to homosexuality.


You don’t need to belong to a church or denomination to be a Christian.


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17 Jul 2022, 3:15 pm

A gay heterosexual is probably more of an oxymoron.


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17 Jul 2022, 3:41 pm

Jesus said that even looking at a woman with lust is a sin...in the first three gospels..so that we know its impossible to reach heaven by our own selves.
So, someone being gay would just be as good or bad as any other Christian



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17 Jul 2022, 3:49 pm

Jesus told me that all his disciples used to always be bumming each other.


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17 Jul 2022, 4:29 pm

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Jesus told me that all his disciples used to always be bumming each other.


That explains why all his apostles were male…


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17 Jul 2022, 5:37 pm

Most practicing heteros, and all practicing homosexuals are screwed when it comes to going to heaven.

Ya gotta be monogomous hetero, or celibate. Thats it.

Thats my understanding.

Or not.

You can be Jeffery Epstein, Ted Bundy, Pablo Escobar, and Hitler combined...but you say that you accept Jesus on your dying breath then you're in like flynn. [shrug]. Mass murder is forgiven. So so is that one time you touched your same sex friends private part.



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17 Jul 2022, 10:11 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
No, people can be gay Christians. A Christian is a follower of Jesus. Jesus never said anything against homosexuality. If people identify as Christian, they are Christian.

There are some scriptures against homosexuality in the Bible, but they weren't said by Jesus. Not all Christians rigidly view the entire Bible as coming straight from God. It gets somewhat arbitrary as to which religious writings were or weren't included in the Bible, anyway. It's not a cohesive work with a single message. Also, while interesting from a historical perspective, not everything is going to be applicable for our day.


Jesus confirmed what scripture says as true and from God. Simply identifying as a Christian doesn't make someone true Christian. There's a big difference between the secular view of what being a Christian is and what the Biblical view of being a Christian is.



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17 Jul 2022, 10:16 pm

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"And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love." Corinthians 13


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"Gay Christian" isn't an oxymoron, but "Bigoted Christian" is.


That's the church giving into worldliness.



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17 Jul 2022, 10:18 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
It depends on the denomination or church, some denominations and churches are open to homosexuality.


Yep some have become very secular.