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07 Dec 2023, 4:26 pm

While I was in Japan I bought a cool cloth for my tarot cards depicting two monsterous demonic-looking deities who I learned were the storm and wind gods known as Raijin and Fujin.

While researching them I also learned about the two incidents in Japanese history known as the "Kamikaze", which was what was believed to be a divine wind sent by these two gods to destroy the fleets of Mongolian ships who were trying to conquer Japan. By sheer coincidence their armies were massacered by the typoon not once but twice years apart.

To the Japanese this was thought to be divine intervention, to modern day people it was just a lucky coincidence that saved Japan from being conqueres by the Mongolians.

But it reminds me of this song from The Wizard of Oz about the tornado that sent Dorothy's house landing on the wicked witch. :mrgreen:



https://youtu.be/0RHsb9LnD9Q?si=fHejWLvCLVZFYiyG


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07 Dec 2023, 10:47 pm

That's very cool.


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09 Dec 2023, 4:25 pm

I think I was a bit manic when comparing that bit of Japanese history to The Wizard of Oz...


But yeah it is very cool. The Japanese sure were lucky at that particular time. :D


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09 Dec 2023, 4:29 pm

I'd like to paint my car like a kamikaze fighter. :nerdy:


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09 Dec 2023, 4:36 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
I'd like to paint my car like a kamikaze fighter. :nerdy:


Haha that would be cool! 8)


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09 Dec 2023, 5:12 pm

RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
I think I was a bit manic when comparing that bit of Japanese history to The Wizard of Oz...


But yeah it is very cool. The Japanese sure were lucky at that particular time. :D


Yes. I was just gonna say that...that is the first time I ever thought about suicide pilots and Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz in the same train of thought! :lol:

But yes the Mongols ruled all of mainland Asia. Built two fleets. The second was the second biggest amphibious invasion force in military history...until the Aliied Invasion of Normandy in 1944. The force did land on southern Japan and the Japanese would fight them and drive them back to the boats so they would land at different spots to find a weak spot...then when back in their boats the typhoon hit...and drowned them all. So yeah it was kinda like that scene in the movie.

The suicide pilots were supposed to be the new "divine wind" to stop the US Navy from bringing a new American invasion. Ironically right after the war in 1946 Japan was hit by a typhoon and the US occupying forces lost more boats and ships around Japan in that typhoon than they did in the war.

In the 1930s the Australian army waged war against an enemy threatening all of Australian agriculture!

This enemy even had a victory (and took out one of Australia's armed humvee type vehicles) with...a kamikaze attack!



https://youtu.be/dyQ4lmAApKQ

And the humvee accidently breached a rabbit proof fence...f*****g up Australia on a strategic level!



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09 Dec 2023, 5:20 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
I think I was a bit manic when comparing that bit of Japanese history to The Wizard of Oz...


But yeah it is very cool. The Japanese sure were lucky at that particular time. :D


Yes. I was just gonna say that...that is the first time I ever thought about suicide pilots and Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz in the same train of thought! :lol:

But yes the Mongols ruled all of mainland Asia. Built two fleets. The second was the second biggest amphibious invasion force in military history...until the Aliied Invasion of Normandy in 1944. The force did land on southern Japan and the Japanese would fight them and drive them back to the boats so they would land at different spots to find a weak spot...then the typhoon hit...and drowned them all. So yeah it was kinda like that scene in the movie.

In the 1930s the Australian army waged war against an enemy threatening all of Australian agriculture!

This enemy even had a victory (and took out one of Australia's armed humvee type vehicles) with...a kamikaze attack!


https://youtu.be/dyQ4lmAApKQ



Yeah I agree, to the Japanese I'm sure it was a divine miracle but to modern thinkers it was just one of the luckiest dang coincidences. :mrgreen:

And that's very intetesting about the Australian army in the 1930's! 8)


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09 Dec 2023, 5:22 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
I'd like to paint my car like a kamikaze fighter. :nerdy:

Ha!

My car might get a WW2 fighter plan bit of art painted on it. Ken Foster, the Artist, was looking at a WW2 fighter plane magazine admiring the shapes and designs of the planes and I told him I've always thought it would be kinda neat to have this particular paint scheme added to my car and he lit up and said "Let's do it!" So, maybe come Spring when the weather is nicer he'll make some art on my car. Maybe. I mean, s**t, I've had it for 6 or 7 years and might end up driving it til the wheels fall off so WTH why not ? :D


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