Are sparkling drinks like champagne "women's drinks"?

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03 Dec 2023, 10:20 pm

I was going to ask the alcohol content.


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03 Dec 2023, 10:29 pm

That's a leftover stereotype from the 1800s.


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03 Dec 2023, 10:47 pm

Champagne isn't for drinking, it's for spraying to celebrate.

Of course, people look at you a bit funny if you're standing on top of your car spraying champagne to celebrate the birth of your first-born.


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03 Dec 2023, 11:05 pm

I christened my grandfather's boat with champagne and thought I was supposed to break the bottle, then let it fall into the water. It didn't go over very well when I did that and put broken glass all in his beach around the dock. They were all really angry with me. Might have been nice to tell me I was only supposed to tap it.


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04 Dec 2023, 12:03 am

Like others here, I would certainly not consider it a casual drink as the purview of one (biological) sex almost exclusively . And more like a celebratory drink.



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04 Dec 2023, 1:04 pm

Champagne, not so much.. more of a hoity toity la-dee-da thing.

Sweet fruity flavoured sugary alcoholic drinks (aka coolers) have been "girly," drinks in the 1980's-2000's, now with tons of premixed drinks in cans and over the last handful of years TONS of non-sweet sparkling alcoholic and non-alcoholic soda water based drinks they've become much more gender-neutral. Plenty of guys these days that don't drink beer but do drink vodka based sweet or non-sweet drinks.

And when you hangout with gay people, trans people, and drag queens.. the whole concept of gender just gets blurred anyways so drinks are just drinks at that point.


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04 Dec 2023, 1:39 pm

i thought champagne was a fancy rich person drink


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04 Dec 2023, 1:56 pm

Some people, both men and women, seem to think it's important to drink beverages suitable for ones gender. I like sweet drinks. If somebody point it out to me that I drink a "woman's drink" I usually poke fun of them and say something like: "Well, for me it's no problem, I'm man enough to drink whatever I like but I think you are making the right choice by playing it safe!"


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04 Dec 2023, 8:02 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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There's no reason that a woman can't drink hard liquor.

No, but due to biology the costs of drinking harder stuff typically increases more quickly for women than for men. Drink sizes are designed for men, so typically the drinks do more damage and have more impact on women.

That's probably a huge part of why some drinks are "girl drinks" and others aren't.


So-called "girl drinks" tend to be just as strong as the drinks that aren't labelled that way.

That's a fair point, although I wonder if that didn't come later on asyou can put more alcohol in there without it tasting like battery acid.



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04 Dec 2023, 8:06 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Champagne, not so much.. more of a hoity toity la-dee-da thing.

Sweet fruity flavoured sugary alcoholic drinks (aka coolers) have been "girly," drinks in the 1980's-2000's, now with tons of premixed drinks in cans and over the last handful of years TONS of non-sweet sparkling alcoholic and non-alcoholic soda water based drinks they've become much more gender-neutral. Plenty of guys these days that don't drink beer but do drink vodka based sweet or non-sweet drinks.

And when you hangout with gay people, trans people, and drag queens.. the whole concept of gender just gets blurred anyways so drinks are just drinks at that point.



Ewwww I hate those cooler things. They all taste like dish soap.

If I had to do one I'd draw the line at Mike's Hard Lemonade but it has to be ice cold with crushed ice, and some other flavouring to get rid of the soapiness. Cranberry juice might work.


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04 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm

Gin and slimline tonic FTW :D


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04 Dec 2023, 8:38 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
There's no reason that a woman can't drink hard liquor.

No, but due to biology the costs of drinking harder stuff typically increases more quickly for women than for men. Drink sizes are designed for men, so typically the drinks do more damage and have more impact on women.

That's probably a huge part of why some drinks are "girl drinks" and others aren't.


So-called "girl drinks" tend to be just as strong as the drinks that aren't labelled that way.

That's a fair point, although I wonder if that didn't come later on asyou can put more alcohol in there without it tasting like battery acid.


I'm not sure the flavour of the drink does much to raise how much alcohol it can contain before there's a strong alcohol taste.

I find, whether it's a sweet mixed drink or beer, if it's over about 8% I can tell, compared to less than about 7%.


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