Which Biblical language is cooler?

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Which is more awesome?
Hebrew 43%  43%  [ 6 ]
Greek 57%  57%  [ 8 ]
Total votes : 14

iamnotaparakeet
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08 Feb 2008, 7:49 pm

Hebrew or Greek? I'm studying both right now on my own. Just now am able to read and pronounce (in Sephardic Hebrew) some of the Old Testament. Vowel system is fairly difficult though. Also I've just started the book on Greek. Its alphabet is a little easier to write and pronounce than Hebrew. What are your thoughts?



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08 Feb 2008, 7:51 pm

Greek, they had better fairy tales.



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08 Feb 2008, 7:55 pm

I voted greek since its alphabet is used in math. Although there is the Aleph-Null, and I think Aleph is Hebrew character, but I'm not sure. :)



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08 Feb 2008, 7:56 pm

viska wrote:
I voted greek since its alphabet is used in math. Although there is the Aleph-Null, and I think Aleph is Hebrew character, but I'm not sure. :)


Would that be NULL?

In comp sci I think its \0 , because thats a null terminator.



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08 Feb 2008, 8:00 pm

No. Aleph-null is a special number. So... mathematicians were able to prove that some certain infinite sets are "more infinite" than others. For example, there's an infinite number of natural numbers, and there's an infinite number of real numbers. But the set of real numbers is "more infinite" than natural numbers. This has been proven. (I forgot the name of the proof, but I could probably look it up and find it.)

So the Alpeh numbers are a special series of numbers that represent the cardinality of these infinite sets (how big they are). The cardinality of the set of natural numbers of Aleph-Null. The cardinality of the set of real numbers is 2 to the Alpeh-Null power, or Aleph-One. It's cool stuff. :)



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08 Feb 2008, 8:39 pm

Is this the character you've seen: א ?

(or a little larger:)
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Are you talking about how the whole number set has one more than the natural number set, integers have about twice as many as either of those, rational numbers have fractions in between, irrational have ones that rational can't describe, real have all of the above and decimals, Complex have imaginary and real in vector format, etc. Is that what an Aleph null is?



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08 Feb 2008, 9:48 pm

I like them both equally. :)



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08 Feb 2008, 10:08 pm

Yep, that's the symbol. Aleph-null is that with a small 0 in the bottom right.

Aleph-null is the cardinality of the set of natural numbers.

How many elements are in this set? (1, 2, 3) = 3

How many elements are in this set? (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) = 6

How many elements are in this set? (All natural numbers) = Aleph-Null. This means it is countably infinite.

BTW, futurama used this in a joke.

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08 Feb 2008, 10:37 pm

EGO LINGUAM LATINAM AMO.

The translation of the above sentence reads, "I love the Latin language."

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08 Feb 2008, 11:50 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Hebrew or Greek? I'm studying both right now on my own. Just now am able to read and pronounce (in Sephardic Hebrew) some of the Old Testament. Vowel system is fairly difficult though. Also I've just started the book on Greek. Its alphabet is a little easier to write and pronounce than Hebrew. What are your thoughts?


Aramaic.



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09 Feb 2008, 12:23 am

I already know several Greek words, but Hebrew I don't know from. Yiddish, on the other hand...;)



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09 Feb 2008, 6:47 am

Yiddish is awesome.
I voted for Hebrew because it sounds cool and it's written from right to left which makes it more interesting.



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09 Feb 2008, 12:42 pm

What about Aramaic?



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09 Feb 2008, 12:42 pm

Kalister1 wrote:
Greek, they had better fairy tales.
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09 Feb 2008, 7:03 pm

Kalister1 wrote:
Greek, they had better fairy tales.


Okay, that was funny.

I vote Hebrew because it is awesome-looking.



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09 Feb 2008, 7:14 pm

EvilKimEvil wrote:
What about Aramaic?


Yeah?