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21 Feb 2024, 6:20 am

I'm not in my 30s yet.

But I do wonder if "second puberty" -- if that's actually a thing -- is easier than the "first"...

I searched the net and all it's concerned about is weight loss, hair and other aesthetic aspects aging. :roll:
I don't give a damn about that shite my whole life. And I can predict that I won't ever will be...

Too bad, I likely inherited my dad's less healthier than usual internal stuff.
I'd rather know if this is the age when the madness of early 20s stops or dwindle.
I want to know more about the hormonal and psychological aspects of the so called second puberty.


Also, menopause -- was it easier too?
I heard and read upsides of losing the cyclic instability and downsides of symptoms like health and tolerating temperature.

And, was it easier to have it earlier instead?


I'm so sick of dealing with this damn cycle.
So sick of losing weeks of progress and 'start over again'.
So sick of waiting for a damn time when I'd outgrow this s**t.
Sick of wasting my time 'accommodating' this bothersome of a body.
And I'm so sick of waiting for years just to be financially able to get a damn check up.


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24 Feb 2024, 4:41 pm

I didn't know there was a second puberty. No one told me.

As for menopause; I asked about it at the doctors the other day and I'm not getting it yet so I can't help you sorry.


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25 Feb 2024, 5:05 pm

I suppose this is really different for everybody. You might find some relief using the hormones found in some birth control prescriptions useful. It was one of the first things prescribed for mood swings, etc for daughter. For menopause, hot flashes may be the worst problem, although I recall feeling constantly angry and irritated (the estrogen going away and testosterone left in my body taking over) But that has subsided too. I also got on anti depressant/ anti anxiety meds about that time. All of those might help with individual problems a person could have. There are a lot of alternatives today for those who do have problems with hormones one way or another. Start by talking to your GP or if you have a therapist, you might get support by talking to them.


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28 Feb 2024, 7:33 am

All I can tell you is that I am missing the days when my periods were regular. Even though they were heavy and I had terrible cramps and lower back pain. I was much, much healthier.

But I see you have very negative attitude about it, may I ask why? Are there gynecological reasons your periods are particularly difficult or painful or heavy..? If they are what did your gynecologist do to help you? If everything is ok, but you just hate having it (for whatever reasons you might have) can you somehow start thinking that having periods is actually healthy for you and your body? They are not there only for reproductive purposes, they regulate so many important female body functions (actually not period itself but hormones). Again if you bleed a lot and those days for you are very painful I would really encourage you to visit both gynecologist and endocrinologist.


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28 Feb 2024, 7:54 am

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All I can tell you is that I am missing the days when my periods were regular. Even though they were heavy and I had terrible cramps and lower back pain. I was much, much healthier.

But I see you have very negative attitude about it, may I ask why? Are there gynecological reasons your periods are particularly difficult or painful or heavy..? If they are what did your gynecologist do to help you? If everything is ok, but you just hate having it (for whatever reasons you might have) can you somehow start thinking that having periods is actually healthy for you and your body? They are not there only for reproductive purposes, they regulate so many important female body functions (actually not period itself but hormones). Again if you bleed a lot and those days for you are very painful I would really encourage you to visit both gynecologist and endocrinologist.

I just had enough with not being able to adjust to the ups and downs every other week as if I'm still in puberty.
I'm almost going 30 soon, so why am I not 'outgrowing' it???

I can deal with more physical symptoms. Even pain and heavy period when it ever happens.
I can even deal with storms of sensory intolerance. I don't care about the physical.

I cannot deal with symptoms that influences my cognition and emotions.
I cannot deal with mental illness and emotional instability that came from my body as opposed to external situations and triggers than I can even 'reason and resolve with'.

I cannot deal with changing every other damn week to a point that I spent the majority of my days having to adjust every week of change.
To a point that I doubt what I can and cannot do, never consistent and nothing to stick and 'identify with' because it fricking changes.

I cannot deal with figuring which of the 3-5 possibilities in every reproductive phase I'm in -- and if the next phase is better or worse, only to be able to adjust at the 6th day then the rules changes at day 7th.

To a point that all I do is 'wait until it's over' -- then transition into 'wait until it's over' after it's over.
I could wake up with a day that I don't deal with it. Then suddenly, I wake up with a day that it does.

It's never over. I don't have a 'baseline' to work everything up because it either deceives me into being a grown up for a day or losing all that weeks of progress for just taking a damn nap.

I'd take consistent predictable pain and exhaustion yet still feel like myself -- over unpredictable subtle influences that either the good reliable days meant I'm lucky and bad ones meant it's all my fault.


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28 Feb 2024, 8:24 am

I get it, I completely now understand why are you hating having it. If I were you I would appoint for systematic/ general health exam and seeing several specialists like ones I mentioned before, but also neurologist and psychotherpist.

It might be you thyroid gland that is the cause of most of your problems or pituitary gland that controls thyroid one. That's why you need endocrinologist, maybe as a first doctor to visit.

But it also may be something completely else, that's why I would go for complete diagnostics. Once you know what is the main cause it will be easier to treat.

Whatever therapy you get don't forget things like some relaxing techniques (yoga), vitamins and supplements, healthy diet, having hobbies to help you stop obsessing over this issue.

I discovered that viscosity of my blood is pretty dense and that I must exclude food that makes it thicker. I solved a huge amount of my period issues as well as general health.

Please, don't just wait to reach menopause, start slowly investigating reasons for your health problems and solving them one by one.


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28 Feb 2024, 8:50 am

I have found this article that may help you a bit. Probably there are even better ones on the net that are related to mood swings in young females. There are many causes for them, not just hormonal imbalance.

https://healthwire.pk/healthcare/mood-swings-in-women/


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28 Feb 2024, 8:55 am

Also this one:

https://attwoodandgarnettevents.com/hormonal-changes-and-autistic-girls-women/


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29 Feb 2024, 3:52 am

So I went for a consultation.
All physical symptoms are passed as normal that all women experience all that, and worse. Even all the unpredictability.

And it just went to head-case talk for not being able to adjust to all that.

Which is the last thing I'd go to after ruling out on everything physical.


Lol.
I fricking knew it.

I'm not even surprised at the outcome.
Because it's a gamble -- everything is.
And not a favorable one, knowing my communication skills.

I practically wasted a good quarter of whatever allowance I got, no recommendations or actions or alternatives, and just feel more invalidated.

The feeling and the situation will pass for me -- but the reaction and state I'm into is just as undesirable.



If I were myself, I won't be feeling invalidated. I'd feel disappointed and right instead.
I'd understand and accept that people won't get it, the fact of limitations of accessibility -- but I'm not.

If I were this seemingly desirable state but still not completely myself -- I'd dismiss everything and laugh. Maybe be offended, but will just let it slide because no one gets it.

Since I'm in a less desirable state and not myself -- I expect everything, believe in everything, and all that foolish emotionally naive reactive shite that will drive anyone else insane.


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29 Feb 2024, 4:19 am

DazyDaisy wrote:
I get it, I completely now understand why are you hating having it. If I were you I would appoint for systematic/ general health exam and seeing several specialists like ones I mentioned before, but also neurologist and psychotherpist.

It might be you thyroid gland that is the cause of most of your problems or pituitary gland that controls thyroid one. That's why you need endocrinologist, maybe as a first doctor to visit.

But it also may be something completely else, that's why I would go for complete diagnostics. Once you know what is the main cause it will be easier to treat.

Whatever therapy you get don't forget things like some relaxing techniques (yoga), vitamins and supplements, healthy diet, having hobbies to help you stop obsessing over this issue.

I discovered that viscosity of my blood is pretty dense and that I must exclude food that makes it thicker. I solved a huge amount of my period issues as well as general health.

Please, don't just wait to reach menopause, start slowly investigating reasons for your health problems and solving them one by one.

There are major factors one would had to understand in my case -- the medical knowledge and accessibility from where I came from are not as advanced, with doctors not as understanding.

And my own socioeconomic status does not make it accessible. Every visit, unless it's free, is a gamble.

Otherwise, any lifestyle changes do not stick unless there is a visible or foreseable conditional end.
But even that disappointed me due to other party meddling; in which is why I prefer to do it alone.


I have high doubts I'd ever get a complete diagnostic. Let alone an accurate one.

Especially since I seem to have this sensitivity internal sensory issue -- I'm very aware that this 'sensory status' makes someone prone into being a hypochondriac by misinterpreting 'seemingly normal bodily sensations' into something else.


I just want something to turn this sensitivity down.
Listening to my body doesn't work -- ignoring my body doesn't work either.

The closest I get was intense workouts that leave me numb after an hour of session. No more automatic involuntary constant 'body checks'.
At least for a day or two, and my stamina even has a limit, sometimes my head has an imaginary limit as to when my body may break.

And even that couldn't stick.


I wish I was alexithymic.
I wish I do not 'feel'...
I wish I can ignore everything in the inside, and let my actions speak for me.


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29 Feb 2024, 4:44 am

I will probably sound pushy and annoying but chalk it up to my limited English knowledge and the fact that I am not familiar with medical pratice in your country but does medical consultation in your country mean that they got you through complete diagnostic procedure!? Or they have concluded some general "diagnose" based on your description of your symptoms and they finally brushed you off as a common case that "just" can't adjust to regular cycles?

I have learned that autism is not just a behevioural thing, a sole mental issue. Many people who have autism also have some underlaying medical condition they don't know of. Usually, all sorts of systemic autoimmune rheumatoid diseases go in pack with autism. All of them attack both central and peripher nervous system, that affect psyche, too. So, you really have to be your own advocate and to insist for complete diagnostics .If you already did it than I apologize for insisting. If you feel the way you feel I think they can not just dismiss you as someone who is just not able to adjust to things like having regular periods. There must be some main underlaying cause. It doesn't have to be anything so serious like systemic autoimmune disease, it could be something less serious that is still the main cause that makes you miserale. When I feel like you, and I do, I know that my Sjogren's syndrome is one among the main reason to blame it for. I can than decide wheather to just start taking some anxiolytics ( which I am not very fond of) or to go for more holistic approach, being more active, eating healthier food, exercizing..things like that.

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29 Feb 2024, 4:47 am

I am sorry, I didn't see that you have posted another reply, which give some answers I asked you for. Ok, I'm reading it.


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29 Feb 2024, 5:11 am

I completely understand you and realize why it is not so easy for you to ask for complete diagnostics.

And I can relate of being labeled as a hypochondriac. After many stesfull events after 1999 (I was 30 at that time), after having severe burnout caused by killing myself with work for three intensive years without having a day for a break, somewhere around year of 2002 I was starting having weird symptoms, both physical and psychological, that made me going from doctor to doctor. First I was told that I have masking depression. After that I was just dismissed every time as a classic hypochondriac. Than in 2009 I have lost vision in my right eye. That's when they finally got me serious. I ended up in Instute for neurology where I have got complete diagnostics. And finally they diagnosed me with Multiple scleroses but they were not 100% sure it is the right diagnoses, they were only sure I have autoimmune systemic disease that attacks nervous system.

Than, after again having problems with severely dry eyes, dry mouth, dry nasal passages, it was an oftalmologist who finally helped me getting the right diagnoses. She doubted that I have Sjogren's syndrome and she refered me to a rheumatologist. Again I went for diagnostic procedures at the Institute of rheumatology and they have confirmed I have Sjogren's syndrome. And I know that one is 100% true diagnose. It was in 2016.

So unless you have some obvious physical symptoms most of medical professionals will just asume you are a hypochondriac. Which is shame that people have to wait to be really sick to get the right to be examined the proper way.

So, pls, pay attention to your physical symptoms. I think having sensory issues is enough to be admitted for complete exam by a neurologist. Does your medicare cover it in your country? There must be a way to do it free of charge.


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29 Feb 2024, 5:17 am

I don't have personal experience with this, but birth control pills can be used to reduce the emotional effects and mood swings of PMS (Pre-Menstrual Syndrome):
https://www.healthline.com/health/birth ... th-control

Menopause is still far away for you, but since you asked about it, my experience was that I felt so much better after my periods stopped. No more irritability and mood swings or being quick to anger. It was and is great. (I am 60 years old, so it's been about 10 years.)



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29 Feb 2024, 5:24 am

Are you taking anything to control this instability? Some amount of mood change and discomfort is normal for everyone. I mean I hardly know a single person who loves having periods. However if you can't handle it then you have a real issue, regardless of what your bloodwork showed. Some girls do much better on birth control pills. I doubt there's much stigma related to taking birth control. Some can try stuff like anti-depressants or even anti-psychotics. You don't have to tell people. I've been taking very low dose anti-psychotic for years. It's for off-label use. There might be something that could help you, too.

BTW are you in the normal weight range? Being underweight would cause irregularity for sure and mood swings. If that's the case, putting on 10lbs would fix things easily. :)


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29 Feb 2024, 11:22 am

Here are also some links of YT videos by this guy I like to watch, Dr Eric Berg. He is actually a doctor of naturopathic medicine and chiropractor, not official medicine. Some people consider him a quack..you decide yourself.I like to listen to his advices because, to my mind, he has holistic approach. I will put links to several conditions that may be connected with your symptoms. The last one is generally about autism and what could help.







On the last one video I suggest that you read the comments of YT member @mime454, she is autistic with masters degree in biology and she did her own research and also has some very good advices.


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