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08 May 2021, 2:35 am

Verbosity
Comprehension

And everything else that makes us, who we are?

Aspergers!

What is it? Technically?

I would like a mature discussion?



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08 May 2021, 4:24 am

What are you referring to by the word "this" in the title?

I cant figure out what it is that you are asking.

Are you asking about "aspergers"? And what are the defining traits of aspergers?

Or what?



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08 May 2021, 4:38 am

I'm confused by the question too and finding it hard to answer. Could you please clarify the question?



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08 May 2021, 4:49 am

aquafelix wrote:
I'm confused by the question too and finding it hard to answer. Could you please clarify the question?


Verbosity...what is it?
Comprehension, something else Aspergers lack...what is it?

(Language and speech skills I want to know about...)



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08 May 2021, 7:52 am

OK.

I have never heard either thing being labeled a trait of aspergers.

"Verbosity" means talking to much. More specifically it means "using too many words to say something". Aspies are known for "monologuing" (going into excited lectures about their special interests). But many folks (especially young people), have trouble "getting to the point" regardless of their neurology.

"Comprehension" means...to comprehend something. To understand what you were just given (just heard, or just read).Autistics have trouble with social cues, but I dont think that that is what the person meant.

I had an NT friend who said that he had a condition that caused him to not be able to understand texts that he just read. Something akin to dyslexia. But he was not an aspie.

So this source (person or text) that said "aspies have problems with verbosity and comprehension" may have either not known what they were talking about, or did know what they were talking about but were too obtuse to explain it to you in a specific and useful way.



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08 May 2021, 7:53 am

verbosity is the use of words. A verbose person uses many words sometimes when fewer would work as well. verbosity is "wordiness", whether written or spoken.

Comprehension is the understanding of words and their proper use in language, spoken or written.
(although comprehension can also mean simple understanding of almost anything, that is another definition or use)

These were part of my testing scores for autism, using the DSM. I scored almost "off the charts" in reading, vocabulary, comprehension, and use of words. My one true strength. :)

I am guessing you are looking at your test results or the DSM definition and descriptions or both. ??
I was given my test results and it said that I was verbose, and had high comprehension... I was given a diagnosis of level 1 autism, and my diagnosing psychologist said if it was in the old days I would have been called "aspergers".
Today the DSM has done away with the title 'aspergers" and level 1 autism is its equivalent.



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08 May 2021, 11:07 am

Technic1 wrote:
Verbosity
Comprehension

And everything else that makes us, who we are?

Aspergers!

What is it? Technically?

I would like a mature discussion?


We have been trying to answer this question for you in other posts. However, you seem to be simply ignoring or not understanding the replies. What are you trying to answer?

The criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder (DSM-5) really defines the condition for the population. That is what ASD is "technically." Everyone on the spectrum falls in there somewhere. However, some will have comorbid conditions, like ADHD or dyslexia. The presentation of ASD in individuals can be very broad and varied.



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09 May 2021, 2:31 am

Jiheisho wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Verbosity
Comprehension

And everything else that makes us, who we are?

Aspergers!

What is it? Technically?

I would like a mature discussion?


We have been trying to answer this question for you in other posts. However, you seem to be simply ignoring or not understanding the replies. What are you trying to answer?

The criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder (DSM-5) really defines the condition for the population. That is what ASD is "technically." Everyone on the spectrum falls in there somewhere. However, some will have comorbid conditions, like ADHD or dyslexia. The presentation of ASD in individuals can be very broad and varied.



You have heard of Aspergers speech problems! What are they?

And I don’t want to know that you’re a quiet person, or that you lack the need to socialise...

I would like technical terms please.


Maybe someone interested in psychology can answer - I’m not really interested in the DSM (any number)

Come up with technical terms about speech and communication and I will tell you what I would like to to know about...

A list would be better...(?)

And if at all...I’m not interested in the DSM 5, only 4...where Aspergers is separat from autism.

If I can come up with verbosity, and comprehension...why don’t people understand what I’m asking?

If I took a rabbit and told you it had speech problems would that tell you what problems with speech and communication it had?

I want,

Dkddkdkddk thats why I’m monotone
Djddkdkdkd that is why I speak about interests
Sisisissisied that’s why I’m behind in communication

Thank you for your help!



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09 May 2021, 5:53 am

Does anyone understand what I meant?



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09 May 2021, 6:01 am

As others are stating, people with Aspergers are noted for being verbose; there is the tendency to speak and write to convey ideas in a “wordy” way, when being more concise would have served the communicative purpose better.

A related adjective is “pedantic”—basically meaning one sounds or writes more like a teacher/professor than necessary for the situation.

When you’re hanging out on the beach, there is the perception that discussing Aristotle is inappropriate for this informal situation. It’s better to discuss the beautiful sunset.



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09 May 2021, 6:36 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
As others are stating, people with Aspergers are noted for being verbose; there is the tendency to speak and write to convey ideas in a “wordy” way, when being more concise would have served the communicative purpose better.

A related adjective is “pedantic”—basically meaning one sounds or writes more like a teacher/professor than necessary for the situation.

When you’re hanging out on the beach, there is the perception that discussing Aristotle is inappropriate for this informal situation. It’s better to discuss the beautiful sunset.


Pedantic is one of the things I was looking for! Thank you.

Any other ‘words’ that describe Aspergers speech, communication and language?



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09 May 2021, 6:48 am

There were times, in my life, when my understanding, comprehension of what I read was much less than what it seemed like, based upon my ability to seem like I was a very superior reader when called upon to read out loud.



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09 May 2021, 7:15 am

"Verbose" is a rather vague term. And it doesnt really describe aspies in any distinctive way.

"Pedantic" is more specific. And it IS a recognized trait of aspies. And a trait of my childhood self. Speaking overly formally. Speaking at length about a special interest. Like that.

There are other traits of aspie speech. Taking things literally. Some do get bogged down in detail (a type of being "verbose" perhaps).



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09 May 2021, 11:09 am

Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or respond to social interactions. This can lead to verbosity.

Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction, ranging, for example, from poorly integrated verbal and nonverbal communication; to abnormalities in eye contact and body language or deficits in understanding and use of gestures; to a total lack of facial expressions and nonverbal communication. This can lead to misunderstanding in communication.

Deficits in developing, maintaining, and understand relationships, ranging, for example, from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit various social contexts; to difficulties in sharing imaginative play or in making friends; to absence of interest in peers. This also leads to misunderstanding.



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11 May 2021, 3:30 pm

I don't think I use verbosity. I'm a bit "Essex" for that. My (NT) boyfriend does though. For example, instead of saying 6 he says "half a dozen". I speak in the shortest way possible, but sometimes it can take longer because I don't have a very wide vocabulary so it could take several "simple" words to explain a complicated topic when all the "simple" words could be explained quickly with one intelligent word.


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