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06 Mar 2023, 12:00 pm

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Aside from the bikes causing a potential safety safety issue, the rest isn't your concern. Taking photos inside could also be a liability if you are compromising the privacy of other patrons.

Privacy? What privacy? McDonald's has already taken photos of you.


there is a legal difference between CS Cameras in businesses (especially were notice of recordings is posted) and a whack-job recording on a cell phone. Didn't you know that?

Cell phone's also record audio that Security cameras do not (and are not allowed to) so yes legitimate surveillance recordings and cell phone recordings are separate issues.



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06 Mar 2023, 10:05 pm

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Aside from the bikes causing a potential safety safety issue, the rest isn't your concern. Taking photos inside could also be a liability if you are compromising the privacy of other patrons.

Privacy? What privacy? McDonald's has already taken photos of you.


there is a legal difference between CS Cameras in businesses (especially were notice of recordings is posted) and a whack-job recording on a cell phone. Didn't you know that?

Cell phone's also record audio that Security cameras do not (and are not allowed to) so yes legitimate surveillance recordings and cell phone recordings are separate issues.


You mean those in power have made what those in power want to do legal? Big surprise. Of course it's legal for them to do what they want to do.


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07 Mar 2023, 11:53 pm

Go to another McDonalds.

Being banned from a location can harm your ego, but you can move on. Avoid trouble and stay away from that McDonalds.

When you go any place where there are people always ask yourself if you are doing anything that bothers them. Back in the 90s, I almost got kicked out of a concert by a pair of police officers for pacing around the lobby way too much.


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10 Nov 2024, 12:11 am

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if you had to be banned from someplace,,,better to be banned from McDonalds than most any place else .
Much better for you healthwise . :|


You sure got that right.

The first time that I ate at McDonald's was as a college freshman in 1972 -- we didn't have such things in the very rural area in which I grew up. It gave me a miserable diarrhea.

Since then, I have eaten at McDonald's precisely twice. The first time was going somewhere with a couple of friends and they insisted on eating at McDonald's.

The second time I was working at someone's office and sent someone out for hamburgers. They got them at McDonald's. I ate it because it was my only choice.

I've been to McDonald's three or four other times, but I just got a drink each time.

About the only thing worse than McDonald's is Burger King.


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10 Nov 2024, 12:27 am

Being banned from a church or mosque would be a badge of honor for me.


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10 Nov 2024, 10:07 am

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But why were you banned?

He demanded they to sort his fries by length from left to right.

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This made me lol out loud.

Maybe someone should make a sticky note pad for autistic ordering at fast food place that includes all exacting ways one could possibly make a typical fast food meal.

My husband was telling me yesterday that he had been experimenting with ways to order drinks for our family in a way that would stop the the window person from asking for follow up clarification. He said the way that kept them from speaking the least was "Two large cokes, one small sugar free coke, that one with no ice." However, he said he did not like putting it that way.



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10 Nov 2024, 2:26 pm

How does one even get banned from a McDonald's? A persons behaviour would have to be pretty terrible to achieve that, I would imagine.



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10 Nov 2024, 2:48 pm

I imagine if you dressed up like the Hamburglar and ran in and started grabbing Big Macs, that'd do it.

I'd love to be banned from a McDonalds. I'd tell everyone.


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10 Nov 2024, 2:49 pm

^Showing my age with that Hamburglar reference.


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10 Nov 2024, 2:53 pm

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I imagine if you dressed up like the Hamburglar and ran in and started grabbing Big Macs, that'd do it.

I'd love to be banned from a McDonalds. I'd tell everyone.


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10 Nov 2024, 6:38 pm

I think getting banned from a McDonalds is a life achievement. You can use it to spice up your autobiography.

If you don't get banned from some place, then I have to wonder, are you even living? We all need to get banned some place in my opinion.

My Dad when he was alive got banned from Borders bookstore. He was a big Liberal and would go in and chat up the store clerks and fish for any complaints about their working conditions. Like, they need a break, or need a chair to sit in, or need more days off, or a pay increase, things like that. Oppression by The Man. Then the manager would come out and ask him to quit bothering the clerks and tell him to leave. Eventually, he was banned from the store.

My brother and I laughed over that. It was something because he bought a ton of books from Borders.

I kept on going, because my Mother when she was alive loved to go to Borders and have the strawberry frappuzzi (sp?). I would take her there and buy her her favorite treat and leave a big tip for the lady at the counter.


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10 Nov 2024, 6:50 pm

I imagine one would have to do something quite inappropriate to be banned from a McDonalds.
Have to believe there is more to the OP's post than they are letting on.

I myself was unofficially 'banned' from a drug store for a period of roughly one month until the matter was resolved.
What happened was that about a year ago, on one particular day while browsing the store (I had shopped there for a few years and was a regular customer) I was suddenly berated by a store employee and accused of theft.

(I suspect this employee had seen me often in the store browsing and was suspicious of my behaviour. It was true that I often browsed in the store, perhaps one or two days per week for about 5 minutes at a time, and then left without making any purchases. I still was making regular purchases of at least once per week to 10 days at a time.)

The employee was screaming and yelling at me to leave in front of other staff and customers. I was shocked and because I had committed no theft, I told them they were crazy. I did though have to leave because if I hadn't, the police could have been called and it would have been the stores right to tresspass me.

It took a number of phone calls with the company headquarters and an eventual in person meeting with the actual store manager over a month later to explain what I experienced and seek a resolution.

I demanded an apology from this employee (which I never received) and some form of compensation.
I received a $50 gift card for the inconvenience.



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10 Nov 2024, 7:14 pm

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I imagine one would have to do something quite inappropriate to be banned from a McDonalds.
Have to believe there is more to the OP's post than they are letting on.

I myself was unofficially 'banned' from a drug store for a period of roughly one month until the matter was resolved.
What happened was that about a year ago, on one particular day while browsing the store (I had shopped there for a few years and was a regular customer) I was suddenly berated by a store employee and accused of theft.

(I suspect this employee had seen me often in the store browsing and was suspicious of my behaviour. It was true that I often browsed in the store, perhaps one or two days per week for about 5 minutes at a time, and then left without making any purchases. I still was making regular purchases of at least once per week to 10 days at a time.)

The employee was screaming and yelling at me to leave in front of other staff and customers. I was shocked and because I had committed no theft, I told them they were crazy. I did though have to leave because if I hadn't, the police could have been called and it would have been the stores right to tresspass me.

It took a number of phone calls with the company headquarters and an eventual in person meeting with the actual store manager over a month later to explain what I experienced and seek a resolution.

I demanded an apology from this employee (which I never received) and some form of compensation.
I received a $50 gift card for the inconvenience.


I have observed store employees get worried when I linger in an aisle, and they come by and ask whether they can "help" me. This is to show me that I am being watched and better not steal anything.

Maybe you are like me. I like to read the little tiny information that is printed on labels and do careful cost-comparisons and other things that Aspies consider VERY IMPORTANT even for a tube of dental floss. If one brand of dental floss is better than the one I am about to buy, then OH MY GOD I can't let that happen.

I think you made out OK overall with a $50 gift card for your troubles.

I am an investor and have read that all of the stores are suffering from shoplifting. They are under pressure, and stores are closing. People are losing their jobs. So, some employees are probably super paranoid these days. And, some employees, might also have Asperger's themselves and have a meltdown.


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10 Nov 2024, 7:24 pm

I'm going to add another personal experience relevant to this discussion.

I was diagnosed in 2018 as having autism. I then found out about the local autism organization in my community
and decided to give a few of their support/social events an opportunity.

Well, I found one meeting to be structured in such a way that I felt was not very productive, so I offered my thoughts.
I did so in a way that I thought was polite and non intrusive. My intentions were positive.

Well, when I went back to the same meeting a few weeks later, the host said I was banned. I had never received any indication I was banned. I asked why. The host was obviously very uncomfortable with my presence and saw the fact I had proposed changes to the meeting format as a threat to her position running the meetings.

I decided that enough was enough and I would voluntarily leave if it was coming to this point. I then emailed the autism organization and asked them to compensate me for my time and provide gas money for my travel to the meetings

Of course I knew that was unlikely to happen, but I didn't care.

I believe that after I sent this email the organization removed me from their email lists, though I still never recieved any formal indication that I was banned.

A few years passed before I met someone who was connected to this organization and they recommended I give it another chance.

I did, though i had to go through an 'intake process' which was essentially a virtual meeting that took perhaps 10-15 minutes. I was told that I had made comments previously that were offensive in my last email (I admit to using the r word to vent my frustration) .

Anyways, the long story short is the organization seemed to forgive me and I have since participated in various events without incident. (though I am by no means a regular or consistent attendee, I am more of a two-three times per year attendee)



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10 Nov 2024, 7:32 pm

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I imagine one would have to do something quite inappropriate to be banned from a McDonalds.
Have to believe there is more to the OP's post than they are letting on.

I myself was unofficially 'banned' from a drug store for a period of roughly one month until the matter was resolved.
What happened was that about a year ago, on one particular day while browsing the store (I had shopped there for a few years and was a regular customer) I was suddenly berated by a store employee and accused of theft.

(I suspect this employee had seen me often in the store browsing and was suspicious of my behaviour. It was true that I often browsed in the store, perhaps one or two days per week for about 5 minutes at a time, and then left without making any purchases. I still was making regular purchases of at least once per week to 10 days at a time.)

The employee was screaming and yelling at me to leave in front of other staff and customers. I was shocked and because I had committed no theft, I told them they were crazy. I did though have to leave because if I hadn't, the police could have been called and it would have been the stores right to tresspass me.

It took a number of phone calls with the company headquarters and an eventual in person meeting with the actual store manager over a month later to explain what I experienced and seek a resolution.

I demanded an apology from this employee (which I never received) and some form of compensation.
I received a $50 gift card for the inconvenience.


I have observed store employees get worried when I linger in an aisle, and they come by and ask whether they can "help" me. This is to show me that I am being watched and better not steal anything.

Maybe you are like me. I like to read the little tiny information that is printed on labels and do careful cost-comparisons and other things that Aspies consider VERY IMPORTANT even for a tube of dental floss. If one brand of dental floss is better than the one I am about to buy, then OH MY GOD I can't let that happen.

I think you made out OK overall with a $50 gift card for your troubles.

I am an investor and have read that all of the stores are suffering from shoplifting. They are under pressure, and stores are closing. People are losing their jobs. So, some employees are probably super paranoid these days. And, some employees, might also have Asperger's themselves and have a meltdown.


As to your first point about being watched, I believe that people on the spectrum can be subject to discrimination for even the most mundane things as you have described. It's their body language, their mannerisms, their demeanour.
It's foreign to others so they become suspicious. It's unfortunate.

My purpose to browsing in the isles wasn't to read the labels (though I occasionally find labels to be interesting). It's to see if their are deals. If there are candy bars on for 50% off, I might be interested.

The gift card was ok, but when you consider the fact that I was physical unwelcome in the store for at least a month, I think that inconvenience is worth more than $50.

If I have any regrets it is not having my phone on me to video record the employees tirade. I did though make a point to try an embarrass them by letting customers in the store know I received a gift card in front of the employee.

For me the incident was more of a humiliation feeling and I wanted vindication.



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10 Nov 2024, 9:19 pm

I got kicked out of a donut shop once. I was on my way to karate class and was barefoot. The owner of the store saw me coming and met me at the door. He was a former NFL defensive linesman and made it very clear that I could not go in there without my shoes or boots.

Of course, it wasn't a ban. The next day I was there as usual wearing shoes and he didn't kick me out again.


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