Is there a WP communications etiquette advisor in the house?

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14 Nov 2019, 1:19 pm

Would a communications etiquette advisor contribute towards refreshing what some see as a stale, and redundant WP environment?

The presence of some type of advisor e.g., like a moderator specializing in communications dynamics might encourage us to reassess our roles here on WP!



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14 Nov 2019, 1:22 pm

Are you proposing a "Director of Political Correctness" for this website?

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14 Nov 2019, 1:57 pm

Fnord wrote:
Are you proposing a "Director of Political Correctness" for this website?

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NOOOOOOOO, I'm proposing an option of a "rank and file" advisor - who upon request, would advise how to best word discussion threads & posts based on objectives, and goals.

Too much content might just become redundant, and stale because impartial advisors were absent "from the loop" - guidance which might have otherwise provided a much needed dynamic.



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14 Nov 2019, 2:05 pm

JustFoundHere wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Are you proposing a "Director of Political Correctness" for this website?
NOOOOOOOO, I'm proposing an option of a "rank and file" advisor -- who upon request, would advise how to best word discussion threads & posts based on objectives, and goals.  Too much content might just become redundant, and stale because impartial advisors were absent "from the loop" - guidance which might have otherwise provided a much needed dynamic.
Are you serious, or are you so deeply marinated in the PC culture that you don't even know it?  Saying "'rank and file advisor' on 'how to best word discussion threads & posts'" is just another way of saying "Director of Political Correctness".

And we don't need any more Grammar
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14 Nov 2019, 2:12 pm

You first need to word the problem to the said advisor, don't you? And they must understand you in order to find the right wording. And to understand you, they must first see it written by you.
So in the end, you need to write it understandably yourself, don't you? And in case someone misunderstood you, clarify.


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14 Nov 2019, 2:56 pm

First of all, it's best to avoid the quicksand of political correctness, grammar Nazis, etc.

Good point 'Magz' - In a nutshell, such advisors are treated like say small to medium sized businesses enlisting professional services to help promote their businesses; that is campaigns to help businesses stand-out from all of the noise. In other words, messaging that might stick in minds of potential clientele.

The same thing here on WP can apply. How many well thought-out discussion threads better address issues of the Autism Spectrum e.g., encouraging the development of friendships? How often are the results of thread content discouraging?

How can discussion threads be made that encourage action - which is too often elusive by the very nature of the Autism Spectrum?

The decisions to enlist the help of advisors in navigating, and refreshing the WP landscape appears more appealing than "spinning our wheels!"



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14 Nov 2019, 3:17 pm

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... How can discussion threads be made that encourage action -- which is too often elusive by the very nature of the Autism Spectrum? ...
Simple.

Close the accounts of all the people who...

... complain for the sake of complaining

... have not posted to this website in over a year

... post only one-word responses like "Agreed", "Amen", "QFT", and "^THIS^"

... post only content totally unrelated to autism spectrum disorders or the operation of this website

... react negatively to any post containing intelligent, knowledgeable, and/or truthful content

... react negatively to any post not directed toward them

... repeatedly post content in unrelated threads

... repeatedly post the same personal issues in multiple threads

This should leave only those people whose posts reflect positivism, topical relevance, thoughtfulness, willingness to learn, and interest in a broad range of topics (other than themselves).

But of course, this also would be censorious, coldhearted, draconian, and completely against the stated purpose of this website.

So why not just accept this website and its membership just the way it is, and without trying to impose more bureaucratic "improvements" on us all?



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15 Nov 2019, 12:34 pm

Book recommendations might just offer that necessary guidance:

* 'Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die.'

* Another book was also recommended: 'Switch: How to Change When Change is Hard.'

https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas ... 1065&psc=1



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15 Nov 2019, 12:49 pm

JustFoundHere wrote:
Would a communications etiquette advisor contribute towards refreshing what some see as a stale, and redundant WP environment?

The presence of some type of advisor e.g., like a moderator specializing in communications dynamics might encourage us to reassess our roles here on WP!


Could you give an example? Of how a WP conversation would be supervised in such a way?



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15 Nov 2019, 1:56 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
JustFoundHere wrote:
Would a communications etiquette advisor contribute towards refreshing what some see as a stale, and redundant WP environment?

The presence of some type of advisor e.g., like a moderator specializing in communications dynamics might encourage us to reassess our roles here on WP!


Could you give an example? Of how a WP conversation would be supervised in such a way?


As mentioned, best practices of small to medium sized businesses enlisting professional services to help promote their businesses; that is campaigns to help businesses stand-out from all of the noise. Non-business entities also benefit from successful communications e.g., teachers who make progress in reaching hard-to-reach students.

See book recommendations in my previous post.



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15 Nov 2019, 5:22 pm

JustFoundHere wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
JustFoundHere wrote:
Would a communications etiquette advisor contribute towards refreshing what some see as a stale, and redundant WP environment?

The presence of some type of advisor e.g., like a moderator specializing in communications dynamics might encourage us to reassess our roles here on WP!


Could you give an example? Of how a WP conversation would be supervised in such a way?


As mentioned, best practices of small to medium sized businesses enlisting professional services to help promote their businesses; that is campaigns to help businesses stand-out from all of the noise. Non-business entities also benefit from successful communications e.g., teachers who make progress in reaching hard-to-reach students.

See book recommendations in my previous post.


Well gosh.Thanks for NOT answering my question.

First off: this is support website, and not a business, so I don't see what your list of business books has to with this website, nor do I see what any of your book titles it has to do with aiding communication as a specific issue.

Second: you didn't give me an example. An example (either real, or hypothetical) of communication break down being aided by someone supervising communication.

So I will give YOU an example of ...what it SOUNDS like you're talking about.

I was in stock room with a bunch of coworkers, and we were unpacking merchandise while shooting the breeze. Three of the people, including me, were middle age, with one young lady circa 25. While we were all joking around someone made some pop culture reference (TV or rocknroll or something) and us middle aged folks all said to each other that "she"(the younger person) "wouldn't know about that". She got incensed and protested that she was old enough to hear about sexual stuff, and blah blah. So I had to jump in and mediate and translate for her what we all meant. And I explained to her that by "too young" we all meant "you weren't around when that TV show was current", and it had nothing to with sex, or being R rated, it was innocent but still an age related culture reference issue. That she was too young to remember the Seventies thing we were all yakking about. And everybody "got it", and got on the same page, and the misunderstanding was ironed over.

That's the kinda thing that it SOUNDS you're talking about. Two folks talking at each other but not hearing each other until a third party mediates.

IF its not then give an example of a vignette that does show what you're talking about.



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15 Nov 2019, 5:31 pm

@NAT: What you just posted implies that the woman in question had something of a "Snowflake" reaction -- an assumption that (1) an insult was intentionally made, (2) it was intentionally directed at her, and (3) it was intentionally sexual in nature.  In other words, the negativity was all in her head.  This may be why some men may object to some women working in traditionally male environments.



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15 Nov 2019, 6:02 pm

Fnord wrote:
@NAT: What you just posted implies that the woman in question had something of a "Snowflake" reaction -- an assumption that (1) an insult was intentionally made, (2) it was intentionally directed at her, and (3) it was intentionally sexual in nature.  In other words, the negativity was all in her head.  This may be why some men may object to some women working in traditionally male environments.


Gosh. you're taking my thing, and running with it on a tangent separate from the topic.

She was Black, and had a bit of a foreign accent. Probably a student from Africa. And the older native born folks (both Black and white and both sexes) were kinda chuckling in a smug way that I could see could be misinterpreted as being the way grownups act around young kids when the grown ups talk about something naughty (booze or sex). So I ..got what the older folks were really doing, and I "got" why she reacted the way she did. So I jumped in to "translate" so to speak. Since then I HAVE run into some REAL snowflakes on the job among the younger generation (one young lady in particular) but the young lady in that incident didn't strike me as being that way. It was understandable misunderstanding. She actually only SAID something like "I am not too young to hear about it" ( and I fleshed out the rest in my head- but the rest was what she meant). She was a bit klutzy with both speaking and getting English. So its all cool.



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15 Nov 2019, 6:08 pm

Add a "like" button so that some attention is not going to just those who post the most but those who actually post the best. I find there's a lot of damaging psych advice given here on how to approach life as a person on the spectrum and I find the actual solid advice is lost in the cracks.

I'm guessing the mature people who aren't compelled to post for the sake of posting read the solid advice, and move on. If they could click a like button I think we'd find that those who are speaking the softest have the most applicable words to share.



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15 Nov 2019, 6:14 pm

People just have to stop assuming the worst.

This is a frequent occurrence in today’s society.

People are just very defensive these days.

If people would follow this simple dictum: “treat other people like you would want to be treated,” this would go a long way towards making any discussion pleasant and instructive.



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15 Nov 2019, 6:28 pm

And can I hide certain posters permanently?
Some people just post without ever thinking "does this provide any value?"
These people make this site full of useless noise.