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Mdyar
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10 Jan 2011, 8:31 am

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People who use UPPER CASE for emphasis are a long way down the slippery slope...


I suppose that there is a cognitive bias here: All cap's can be considered shouting and rude, but I think this bias might be a perception of a wanting in vocabulary articulation or skill. To say loudly to compensate for the lack.

Am I wrong?



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10 Jan 2011, 8:36 am

I don't think it's so much intelligence, but pickiness. After all, we've all learned how to spell at one point.



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10 Jan 2011, 9:00 am

Mdyar wrote:
peterd wrote:
People who use UPPER CASE for emphasis are a long way down the slippery slope...


I suppose that there is a cognitive bias here: All cap's can be considered shouting and rude, but I think this bias might be a perception of a wanting in vocabulary articulation or skill. To say loudly to compensate for the lack.

Am I wrong?


Give me a BREAK! If I said "Is SHE wrong about that?", I am referring to the woman I was just discussing, and asking if she is wrong, or is it someone else. If I said "Is she WRONG about that?" I would mean "is what she said REALLY wrong?". If I said "Is she wrong about THAT?". I mean "OK, she might be wrong about anything else, but is she wrong about what I was discussing?".

It isn't shouting. THIS WOULD BE SHOUTING! And it isn't due to "a perception of a wanting in vocabulary, articulation, or skill". If I were talking, I would say that a BIT louder. Noticeably louder, and a bit slower, but NOT shouting.

Listen to commercials, etc... OTHERS do what I described to emphasize. Other than being overly verbose, what other way could I do it using ONLY a typewriter? I mean with NO fonts, bold, underline, etc... If you know, let me know, because it seems that many millions of people suffer the same lack of info. Granted, some use html, or "bb code", to do this, but I chose not to since it is not supported everywhere, etc... And as for words? I don't talk in such a verbose manner and so don't write in it either. As shakespeare once said, in Hamlet, "Brevity is the soul of wit".



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10 Jan 2011, 9:22 am

2ukenkerl wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
peterd wrote:
People who use UPPER CASE for emphasis are a long way down the slippery slope...


I suppose that there is a cognitive bias here: All cap's can be considered shouting and rude, but I think this bias might be a perception of a wanting in vocabulary articulation or skill. To say loudly to compensate for the lack.

Am I wrong?


Give me a BREAK! If I said "Is SHE wrong about that?", I am referring to the woman I was just discussing, and asking if she is wrong, or is it someone else. If I said "Is she WRONG about that?" I would mean "is what she said REALLY wrong?". If I said "Is she wrong about THAT?". I mean "OK, she might be wrong about anything else, but is she wrong about what I was discussing?".

It isn't shouting. THIS WOULD BE SHOUTING! And it isn't due to "a perception of a wanting in vocabulary, articulation, or skill". If I were talking, I would say that a BIT louder. Noticeably louder, and a bit slower, but NOT shouting.

Listen to commercials, etc... OTHERS do what I described to emphasize. Other than being overly verbose, what other way could I do it using ONLY a typewriter? I mean with NO fonts, bold, underline, etc... If you know, let me know, because it seems that many millions of people suffer the same lack of info. Granted, some use html, or "bb code", to do this, but I chose not to since it is not supported everywhere, etc... And as for words? I don't talk in such a verbose manner and so don't write in it either. As shakespeare once said, in Hamlet, "Brevity is the soul of wit".


Was there anything I said to give the impression that I missed something?



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10 Jan 2011, 11:47 am

Since when is intelligence measured by grammar?

I definitely think the content of the message is most important and when that is said I agree that there are many intelligent persons on WP :wink:



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10 Jan 2011, 12:02 pm

MrSteven wrote:
on average, at an infinitely higher level


This alone seems to disprove your statement :)



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10 Jan 2011, 12:25 pm

I haven't noticed really terrible grammar/spelling anywhere else, but then I only go on TSR and another site where the posters are older than me. What I have noticed is a difference in the content. TSR is full of pretentious teens who are really up themselves but know nothing, despite getting 20 A*s at GCSE, and here people do know what they're talking about. As far as I can see. :)



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10 Jan 2011, 5:13 pm

If you went on other forums, you would see that the overall usage of correct grammar on this site is mediocre.
And, I must repeat, in essence, what some have said before me: "What is the correlation between intelligence and the way you type on an internet forum?"



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10 Jan 2011, 6:06 pm

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Has anyone else noticed, that the spelling and grammar on this forum seems to be, on average, at an infinitely higher level than pretty much every other discussion forum on the internet? Socially, yes, Asperger's and Autism may be a severe burden, but in many other ways, not so much. You're all very intelligent.


Or we pay attention to details.

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10 Jan 2011, 6:17 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
If you went on other forums, you would see that the overall usage of correct grammar on this site is mediocre.
And, I must repeat, in essence, what some have said before me: "What is the correlation between intelligence and the way you type on an internet forum?"

It's about the same all over the internet. Some people use a lot of slang, others do not. This site, like other sites, has its share of people who enjoy elaborating and like to research and provide links in their threads while others might type a few sentences and leave it at that.
These posts are not an indication of how well someone utilizes grammar irl. For one thing, some people don't really try their best because of the casual atmosphere online.



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10 Jan 2011, 6:26 pm

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I am amused at the contrast between your post and this one.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postx148204-0-0.html


LOL!! I find that post, which is grammatically incorrect, to be funny. :D

While many of us make quite a few grammatical errors, it is our tendency to recheck our posts multiple times that helps us catch and correct errors others would simply leave.


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10 Jan 2011, 6:33 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
peterd wrote:
People who use UPPER CASE for emphasis are a long way down the slippery slope...


I suppose that there is a cognitive bias here: All cap's can be considered shouting and rude, but I think this bias might be a perception of a wanting in vocabulary articulation or skill. To say loudly to compensate for the lack.

Am I wrong?


It isn't shouting. THIS WOULD BE SHOUTING! And it isn't due to "a perception of a wanting in vocabulary, articulation, or skill". If I were talking, I would say that a BIT louder. Noticeably louder, and a bit slower, but NOT shouting.


I agree. It's not shouting. It is adding emphasis, which can also be done by using the tools provided by the forum. :D

Honestly though, some people type in caps because, for them, it is easier than typing in sentence case.


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10 Jan 2011, 6:39 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
If you went on other forums, you would see that the overall usage of correct grammar on this site is mediocre.
And, I must repeat, in essence, what some have said before me: "What is the correlation between intelligence and the way you type on an internet forum?"

I must be posting in some very low intelligent forums then. Something that happens on those forums is that they go completely off topic, use insults and are full of sarcasm. I suppose this forum can be full of insults too.


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10 Jan 2011, 7:16 pm

I've noticed more grammar police here than at other forums. I had a hard time presenting ideas in a verbal or written form until computers came along. I understood things in my mind and was good at the input but the output was hard. Computers helped. While my handwriting skills were horrible, typing was easy. I think the ability to back space and correct compensates for issues with short term memory/executive functioning and handwriting. Motor skills for handwriting are more complex than typing.

The grammar police are not surprising for a group of people with Aspergers. Given the need for acceptance, I'm sure that many people viewing the site, some of which would like to post, don't do it for fear that their writing skills are not good enough. I doubt the grammar police have much influence on this. But, the need for acceptance is probably why we don't see much in the way of poor writing skills on Wrong Planet.

Back in the old days when I was fully mainstreamed into the world, I wouldn't of given this a second thought. Now when I see grammar police it seems a little like academic bullying rather than social bullying. It's hard not having good social skills, but having lower academic skills and lower social skills is a larger hurdle.



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10 Jan 2011, 7:55 pm

aghogday wrote:
I've noticed more grammar police here than at other forums. I had a hard time presenting ideas in a verbal or written form until computers came along. I understood things in my mind and was good at the input but the output was hard. Computers helped. While my handwriting skills were horrible, typing was easy. I think the ability to back space and correct compensates for issues with short term memory/executive functioning and handwriting. Motor skills for handwriting are more complex than typing.


I feel this way as well. Back when everything was handwritten, it was very difficult for me to write papers and letters, as there was no way to rearrange my thoughts or remove things easily. I would end up with piles of paper where I had made and error and had to start all over again. It was not uncommon for me to get to the end of a page, and then realize I had messed up, only to crumple the page and start from the beginning.

Now it is much easier for me. The ability to cut and paste, backspace, or highlight and delete has made it much easier to express my thoughts succinctly. However, I still find that I have difficulty writing to the screen. For some reason my mind goes blank when I sit down in front of a computer and attempt to write an essay or a piece of literature.


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10 Jan 2011, 8:16 pm

In my career, at a military installation, I came across people with exceptional oratory skills; paragraph after paragraph of complex, logical ideas, with little to no error. To my surprise, some of the people that expressed the highest level of intelligence in their oratory skills had below average writing skills. I'm not sure that writing skills, taken alone, are a good indicator of general intelligence.