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06 Dec 2011, 5:49 pm

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You want to wake him up a little? Do a search on the Internet. I remember a story recently about a bunch of high school kids who were sexting each other, and ended up being charged with distribution of child pornography. Exposing minors to pornography IS a chargeable offense in many places, even if you're a minor yourself. Don't know if it'll make an impression on him but it's worth a try.


This is totally wrong. Stigmatising a child, especially an AS child, for being a normal horny kid would be one of the cruellest things you could do. He isn't hurting anyone, his teacher can deal with him in class.

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06 Dec 2011, 5:51 pm

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I'd be doubtful he is a real Aspie at all.


He tells everyone he is.


That's why he's not a real Aspie. Done.



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06 Dec 2011, 6:10 pm

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I'd be doubtful he is a real Aspie at all.


He tells everyone he is.


That's why he's not a real Aspie. Done.


For an actual Aspie telling everyone you are an aspie is like going around telling everyone your gay, only worse. Gays are finally getting their rights and respect.


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06 Dec 2011, 6:15 pm

He sounds like your regular horny teenage kid. By all means he can watch porn, just not in the classroom.



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06 Dec 2011, 6:28 pm

Do tell, he has to learn a lesson, or if you don't feel like explaining it to teachers confront him, you have to almost threaten him. This is highly inappropriate. And especially him using his supposed AS to defend himself. Hentai is hot but is incredibly perverting if you are young.. (As any porn it's degrading.) This behaviour of that boy is abnormal. He can go to his room and w*k himself off as much as he pleases. Disgusting. He violates your rights and you don't have to put up with it.



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06 Dec 2011, 6:43 pm

Bingo.

Fraac, if the kid is watching this stuff in the privacy of his own home then my attitude is whatever, not my kid. If his parents know about it and are defending him for watching this in class then I have about 3 red flags going up. In school it's a violation of everyone's rights. It's not just a personal matter then. Same as if someone posts or watches porn in the work place. It's their right to do that in private, but not in the workplace. I have a right not to see it. No judgment on the kid on my part really, other than maybe he and his parents are selfish turkeys. There's no stigma for curiosity on my part. I have older kids plus their friends. The issue has come up. No problem. Curiosity is normal. But NOT in school, and not where there are unwilling viewers.


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06 Dec 2011, 6:45 pm

Ganondox wrote:
For an actual Aspie telling everyone you are an aspie is like going around telling everyone your gay, only worse. Gays are finally getting their rights and respect.


Actually, I quite like to tell people these days, because they give me some grace when I make a social mistake. But flaunting a diagnosis to expect special treatment is incredibly annoying, not to mention self-centred.

There're a few issues here.

1. Is AS a reason to expect more allowances in general?

I'd say we're all accountable for being considerate of others - AS or not. Sometimes a person might need some reasonable special allowances (e.g. to allow for sensory issues or to accommodate a necessary routine). Sometimes a person with AS might be unaware of how their actions may affect others. But, there is no excuse for knowingly being uncaring to those around us.

2. Should porn be dismissed as an innocent teen...umm...past-time? Sorry - I'm not sure what word is appropriate!

I worry that using porn distorts the idea of sex. It can be addictive and can damage relationships with unrealistic expectations that cannot work in a real relationship. But the issue of porn is a massive subject and maybe not the main issue for this thread.

3. AS obsessions - Can you put a lid on them?

Obsessions in themselves are just part of AS and aren't wrong per sa. Of course, the subject content could be damaging or morally wrong. However, regardless of opinions on the morality of porn, it's possible that any obsession might get too consuming and need to be put back in its place. Sometimes we need to re-take control of our interest.



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06 Dec 2011, 6:48 pm

Who didn't bring porn into school and share it with friends?

Sylvia, it's totally harmless. His teacher should stop him in class.



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06 Dec 2011, 6:58 pm

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Who didn't bring porn into school and share it with friends?

Sylvia, it's totally harmless. His teacher should stop him in class.


Me, everyone I know.


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06 Dec 2011, 6:59 pm

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Who didn't bring porn into school and share it with friends?

Seriously, no one I knew! Maybe the *bad corner*, but ffs! If I saw that s**t when I was 15 I would be in a serious shock. And he is to be blamed for that. And what if I was a girl? Most hentai is outrageously offensive to (most?) females! Yeah, the teacher is an indifferent ass, but it I just cannot grasp how do you think this is fine. Why do I have to be exposed to material which is for adults? There is a reason for that. Sorry but not all teen boys are such a perverts.



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06 Dec 2011, 7:07 pm

He probably doesn't have internet connection at home..


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06 Dec 2011, 7:10 pm

Did a quick search on hentai. I thought I knew what it was, and yep I did. My position remains unchanged. No, it's not totally harmless, especially when viewers are unwilling. If an adult showed that to a minor it would be charged as sexual abuse. No kidding. Penthouse or Playboy aren't all that harmful. This is in another category entirely.


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06 Dec 2011, 7:15 pm

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Did a quick search on hentai. I thought I knew what it was, and yep I did. My position remains unchanged. No, it's not totally harmless, especially when viewers are unwilling. If an adult showed that to a minor it would be charged as sexual abuse. No kidding. Penthouse or Playboy aren't all that harmful. This is in another category entirely.


Wait, hentai is even WORSE than hard porn?


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06 Dec 2011, 7:22 pm

SylviaLynn wrote:
Did a quick search on hentai. I thought I knew what it was, and yep I did. My position remains unchanged. No, it's not totally harmless, especially when viewers are unwilling. If an adult showed that to a minor it would be charged as sexual abuse. No kidding. Penthouse or Playboy aren't all that harmful. This is in another category entirely.


You're just wrong, but more importantly your classification of pornography should have no effect on how teenagers use it, because that could stigmatise them. Only their own opinion matters. I got the impression the kid wasn't even sharing it, just watching it himself. So it's harm-free.



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06 Dec 2011, 7:30 pm

If what I saw from the very first site I saw is an indication of hentai, then yes. But that is my opinion. Fraac, essentially you are kind of right, but in this case he is watching it in class where the OP among others are exposed to this. That's not ok. And it's still not ok in class. If the teacher stopped it in class that would be fine, but apparently the parents are coming in to get on the complainer's case. This is very wrong. If you want to watch hentai, I don't care. If you make my kid watch it, I'll have your hide. Do you understand what I mean now?

My eldest son conned me into buying him a Snoop Doggy Dog cd when he was a teen. Ok, I find it offensive and I can't understand why any girl would have anything to do with it. But, I told him that I wouldn't stop him from listening to it, but if he ever played it so his baby brother heard it I would destroy it for starters. Get it?

If you don't understand, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Good luck, OP and let us know what happens. You really do have the right to complain.


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06 Dec 2011, 7:41 pm

fraac wrote:
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You want to wake him up a little? Do a search on the Internet. I remember a story recently about a bunch of high school kids who were sexting each other, and ended up being charged with distribution of child pornography. Exposing minors to pornography IS a chargeable offense in many places, even if you're a minor yourself. Don't know if it'll make an impression on him but it's worth a try.


This is totally wrong. Stigmatising a child, especially an AS child, for being a normal horny kid would be one of the cruellest things you could do. He isn't hurting anyone, his teacher can deal with him in class.

Your 'epic fail' picture adds nothing to the discussion.


Wrong to tell him the truth? Since when is that wrong? Last time I checked, porn is not legal for minors. Exposing minors to it is not legal.

If you put that stuff in the hands of my kids or in their view, you would find yourself charged. Count on it. If he gets caught, he could be charged. What on EARTH is wrong with just explaining that to him? That is ALL I suggested.


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