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nemorosa
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29 Dec 2011, 6:20 am

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I often mention that I get social anxiety type problems (I do not say Aspergers as I am not officially diagnosed) and depression. Apparently that is a no no when talking to people.


Yes, you are not supposed to talk about being sad, unwell, depressed or anything that gives negative vibes. They do not like it because you make them feel bad and then they associate you with bad feelings.

This causes great conflict with those of us who value honesty. It is odd because we are constantly told that we must open up and share our feelings and not repress them.



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29 Dec 2011, 6:43 am

nemorosa wrote:
bumble wrote:
I often mention that I get social anxiety type problems (I do not say Aspergers as I am not officially diagnosed) and depression. Apparently that is a no no when talking to people.


Yes, you are not supposed to talk about being sad, unwell, depressed or anything that gives negative vibes. They do not like it because you make them feel bad and then they associate you with bad feelings.

This causes great conflict with those of us who value honesty. It is odd because we are constantly told that we must open up and share our feelings and not repress them.


I prefer it when people tell me if they are feeling anxious or depressed, as I’m not terribly good at working it out for myself and so can sometimes take any negative behaviour on their part personally. On the other hand if I know, I’m happy to give them some space, talk it over, help them through it, or do whatever they find easiest. I can generally be very accommodating and I’d like to think considerate; but if I don’t know how they are feeling, well, I can’t be. So for me honesty is always best.



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29 Dec 2011, 8:07 am

nemorosa wrote:
bumble wrote:
I often mention that I get social anxiety type problems (I do not say Aspergers as I am not officially diagnosed) and depression. Apparently that is a no no when talking to people.


Yes, you are not supposed to talk about being sad, unwell, depressed or anything that gives negative vibes. They do not like it because you make them feel bad and then they associate you with bad feelings.

This causes great conflict with those of us who value honesty. It is odd because we are constantly told that we must open up and share our feelings and not repress them.


I am told that this is so but as I am non judgemental about such things and very accepting I constantly make the mistake of thinking that others are same. I am 36 and make that same mistake repeatedly. Even as a child I thought that if I felt or knew or thought something that knew it, felt it or would think the same.

I find myself constantly surprised when they do not.

My depression is often caused by my inability to connect with people but that is not understood by people either. They think that just going out and being around people is connecting some how. But when sat in a room full of strangers I rarely feel any kind of connection with them. I connect occasionally but it is rare and I think a part of my problem is that I think so differently to most people and cannot really undestand their way of thinking in any great depth (beyond my intellectual mind).

I see others making their connections and I feel lonely because I cannot do what they are doing in the way that they are doing it.

I know intellectually that people are all different and that they don't think in the same way but I still manage to forget that. A lot.



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29 Dec 2011, 8:44 am

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I am 36 and make that same mistake repeatedly. Even as a child I thought that if I felt or knew or thought something that knew it, felt it or would think the same.

I find myself constantly surprised when they do not.


I have suffered a great deal of anger and frustration because it has appeared to me that people have been wilful and obstinate in denying what appears to me the reality of any given situation. After all, I've felt and experienced it so surely they can understand what I'm talking about? It's obvious isn't it?

I now now better (intellectually anyway).