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13 Aug 2012, 3:01 pm

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I also don't understand that if they know you are suspecting you have AS, how come they still don't say what they mean? Shouldn't they know to say what they mean because you may take them literal and also not misunderstand you by your mannerisms and behavior because it could be the Asperger's?


It's really annoying. I don't know why she's doing these things. Last time I met her I went to Amsterdam with her, her boyfriend and my boyfriend. They had a really good time but I got overloaded and sort shut down very quickly. Then, later that day, we were having dinner when a friend of hers showed up and joined us for dinner. Made me extremely anxious. So anxious I went mute or something. She didn't seem to care about me going mute or me getting overloaded. She barely talked to me that day. But then, the day after, she was really nice to me again. She even said she had noticed I wasn't doing particularly good the day before. I don't mean to trash-talk her or anything, I just don't get it.



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13 Aug 2012, 3:03 pm

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Well, it appears to me THAT she's avoiding you.

You have extended your hand out so there is not much you can do.

*See, you have to be careful when discussing personal business with family members,. Unfortunately, you get in to a lot of she said, he said, Bullsh*t

This results in misinformation and hurt feelings.

I'm not privy to your conservations and interactions so i do not know what went down.

BUT, just by reading the questions THAT you are asking, i think you know what's happening.

The Best of Luck,

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Not sure I really understood all of that but anyway, I think I've decided I won't contact her again unless she contacts me first. I guess I'll eventually figure out if she really cares and wants to talk to me.



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13 Aug 2012, 3:15 pm

I'd happily help extended family and friends with occassional computer problems. If they started asking every week, I'd go non-responsive too. It's the only way to slow it down, without causing an ugly confrontation.

You've overdone it, I suggest you thank her for her help, send her some flowers or wine, then perhaps ask her if she can recommend someone else you can talk to? You don't want this interfering with your family relationships.

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13 Aug 2012, 3:16 pm

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No, I can't imagine she'd do something like that. We're "family" (she's my boyfriend's brother's girlfriend) and I just can't imagine she'd want me to pay when she knows what I'm going through. No. She wouldn't do that.


........more than likely her loyalties lie with her boyfriend's (blood relatives) family NOT YOU. IF you are coming to her for advice regarding your boyfriend (and anything THAT you say is misconstrued and/or is negative) then it's quite possible she will distance herself from YOU for these reasons.

Think back if you can and apply my above statement to anything THAT you may have discussed with her.

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13 Aug 2012, 3:19 pm

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........more than likely her loyalties lie with her boyfriend's (blood relatives) family NOT YOU. IF you are coming to her for advice regarding your boyfriend (and anything THAT you say is misconstrued and/or is negative) then it's quite possible she will distance herself from YOU for these reasons.

Think back if you can and apply my above statement to anything THAT you may have discussed with her.

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I haven't discussed my relationship with my boyfriend with her.



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13 Aug 2012, 3:29 pm

Answer me a few questions then:

Were your discussions of a personal nature, anything THAT IF *you* did not feel comfortable with, *you* would not discuss with anyone else ?

or Could you talk to *anyone* about your problems ? in other words, is this information you feel comfortable with telling, anyone ?
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* In the last meeting was anything different about you,. Stressful day, anxious, unfocused, hyperactive, talkative, etc.....

There is a point in time, when communication ceased; it's likely that what directly proceeded that holds some clues.

I know you have already made your decision. I wanted to give you a few more things to think about.

Good Luck,


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13 Aug 2012, 3:38 pm

TheSunAlsoRises wrote:
Answer me a few questions then:

Were your discussions of a personal nature, anything THAT IF *you* did not feel comfortable with, *you* would not discuss with anyone else ?

or Could you talk to *anyone* about your problems ? in other words, is this information you feel comfortable with telling, anyone ?
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* In the last meeting was anything different about you,. Stressful day, anxious, unfocused, hyperactive, talkative, etc.....

There is a point in time, when communication ceased; it's likely that what directly proceeded that holds some clues.

I know you have already made your decision. I wanted to give you a few more things to think about.

Good Luck,


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Not sure this is what you mean but there are definitely things I don't discuss with her (or anyone else for that matter). But I've also trusted her with things I haven't told other people (well, I've told my boyfriend as well). My AS suspicions for example.

Last time I met her this happened (quoting an earlier post I wrote):

vortex wrote:
Last time I met her I went to Amsterdam with her, her boyfriend and my boyfriend. They had a really good time but I got overloaded and sort shut down very quickly. Then, later that day, we were having dinner when a friend of hers showed up and joined us for dinner. Made me extremely anxious. So anxious I went mute or something. She didn't seem to care about me going mute or me getting overloaded. She barely talked to me that day. But then, the day after, she was really nice to me again. She even said she had noticed I wasn't doing particularly good the day before.


EDIT: Also, I should mention that just before we parted she once again told me I could email her if I wanted to.



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13 Aug 2012, 3:58 pm

She's a bit spooked and conflicted.

It was a courtesy comment.

Like when people say call me BUT have no attention of answering your call, and hoping you will get the message, after a while.

I think you made a wise choice.

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13 Aug 2012, 4:03 pm

I'm still struggling a bit with knowing when to hold back, I have mild AS but no one ever talked to me about it so it made it such a struggle to learn to fit in, plus probably schizophrenia. I can't even tell what the diff is other than overstimulation.


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13 Aug 2012, 4:13 pm

TheSunAlsoRises wrote:
She's a bit spooked and conflicted.

It was a courtesy comment.

Like when people say call me BUT have no attention of answering your call, and hoping you will get the message, after a while.

I think you made a wise choice.

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I'm not sure I'll ever be able to understand courtesy and social pleasantries like that. Is that unwritten rule something all NTs know about? That "call me" or "email me" don't always mean "call me" or "email me" that is.

Anyway, thanks for your help.



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13 Aug 2012, 5:37 pm

vortex wrote:
TheSunAlsoRises wrote:
She's a bit spooked and conflicted.

It was a courtesy comment.

Like when people say call me BUT have no attention of answering your call, and hoping you will get the message, after a while.

I think you made a wise choice.

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I'm not sure I'll ever be able to understand courtesy and social pleasantries like that. Is that unwritten rule something all NTs know about? That "call me" or "email me" don't always mean "call me" or "email me" that is.

Anyway, thanks for your help.


Let me show you something that you wrote from a previous post.

vortex wrote:
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Last time I met her I went to Amsterdam with her, her boyfriend and my boyfriend. They had a really good time but I got overloaded and sort shut down very quickly. Then, later that day, we were having dinner when a friend of hers showed up and joined us for dinner. Made me extremely anxious. So anxious I went mute or something. She didn't seem to care about me going mute or me getting overloaded. She barely talked to me that day. But then, the day after, she was really nice to me again. She even said she had noticed I wasn't doing particularly good the day before.


EDIT: Also, I should mention that just before we parted she once again told me I could email her if I wanted to.

It's depends on, the context and tone of the these last few words. Non-Autistics(many, not ALL) can pick up on these little nuances. Like I said, i'm not privy to the details of your conversation BUT your friend could have seen you distressed and told you what you needed to hear (at that moment in time) with an understanding THAT the offer had limitations.

Yes. Non-Autistics use these phrases in many different ways THAT sometimes can not be taken literally.

It's similar to when a Boss says, come see me anytime, BUT one knows a Boss is not available anytime plus IF you approached a Boss constantly..... problems would insue. In this case, the boss makes this statement to alleviate any worries that you may have concerning questions you may have i.e dont be afraid to approach.

Just know, your friend's offer was not done out of malice.

Again, Good Luck

You're very welcomed. Anytime.

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