The four manifestations of AS/HFA

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I think I'm 2, and/or 3.

I might be a mixture of Passive and Active But Odd, although my temper is notoriously fiery.

I' m typically either passive or stilted.

I'm mostly stilted but used to be active-but-odd.

My wife is textbook passive (if you can call a paragraph on a forum 'textbook').

I'd say I'm passive based on the fact that I accept social approaches but can count the number of times I've made them on one hand.

If I have to interact, I think I appear like the stilted manifestation, but it's a social "mask" and a fair bit of work to keep up.

Mostly aloof (except without the "loneliness and sadness"), with some passive.

I'm 99% passive.

I say 99% because I don't "lack" creativity.

Sometimes I wonder whether we actually have more passive people on here, or whether people want to be passive because its more autistic than the other subtypes that get diagnosed with AS, or whether people aren't understanding that subtype as much.

It's not so extreme in this as it has been in other threads where these have came up, but every time it comes up, passive has been the most common one listed, while its supposed to be the rarest of the subtypes.

My guess is that few people are pure one subtype, and people latch onto the sentence "Recognition of their autism depends more on observing the absence of the social and creative aspects of normal development than the presence of positive abnormalities."

active but odd- I even relate to that phrase by itself without the description (and the description)

Edit- I relate to a lot of the stilted too like having family problems because of lack of empathy and spontaneity and throwing tantrums when routines aren't followed- but I'm not independent or able to keep a job (at least not yet...and I'm 27) so......

From what I've read it goes Passive is rarest, followed by Stilted, followed by Active but Odd, followed by Aloof.

As for what's least diagnosed - I don't have the references on hand, but I'm pretty sure that's Stilted (which is the second rarest).

Active But Odd is stereotypical Aspergers, Aloof is stereotypical classic autism.

Passive doesn't fit a stereotype as well but that doesn't mean its not "more autistic".


I'm not saying that there aren't passive people here - I'm sure there are. I'm not questioning any individual person's identification of themselves - I've just noted a trend that abnormal amounts of people identify as passive here, and its been something I've been wondering about since I found these four categories. I just happened to mention it on this thread rather than starting a new thread to discuss it in.

(And so you know, I agree with both of you - XFilesGeek and Verdandi about you being primarily Passive based off of what I've read about you on here.)

I put passive, because I am neither aloof or active but odd or stilted, so passive sounded like the only category left. It also makes sense from the course of my development, going from aloof to passive when I figured out what communication was. Aloof would be not responding to my name when people called me in front of my face. Passive would be responding but not initiating. I would rather be aloof than passive, aloof being my default state from childhood, but I leveled up to passive, so I can interact with the world and be able to do the things that I want to do. When it comes to my interests, I have an active but odd streak to add to my passive. When I get stressed out or tired, I have to default back to aloof to take a break. Usually, I need to go from active but odd in a public setting when I am doing something for work for a few hours to aloof for many hours to really recover from the foray into dangerous territory. With passive, I can keep things passive for awhile and take care of sensory overload and I am fine, as long as I have some aloof time too.

Classic example of active-but-odd here.

In my diagnostic paper is written, that I am "primarily passive typus".
I guess as a child I altered depending on the situation and surrounding between aloof and passive.
But sometimes I guess I am Active-but-odd, because I sometimes just go an hug someone very squeezing tight I like as for example my psychologist because she is nice and it can come after hardly talking the whole session and she told me that it is quite surprising that I do this action.
She also said that Active-but-odd typus has the highest likelyhood being (mis-)diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
Edit: I read my diagnostic paper again and I am "primarily passive typus fluctuating to aloof" and it is specified, that I can respond to social actions at times and do not respond at other times, this was written as a transfer to a center of autism.
I am sorry, the above paragraph I wrote without reading it again.

Did anyone who has ADHD as well as the ASD and is generally the active but odd (and was as a child) have periods of being "aloof"? Sometimes I didn't respond to my name and I would do things like when my gym class was playing soccer baseball on the field, take off my coat and leave it in the middle of the field and then just wander off of the field daydreaming and fiddling with something. Also I gave a strong impression of being "off in my own little world" - it's mentioned in all of my report cards from kindergarten until grade 4 in those words and my preschool teacher also told this to my mom when she went to pick me up. My kindergarten reposts said I was "only beginning to became aware of the other children and my environment". This seems unusual to me for someone who spoke early and was generally "active but odd". I would often tune out though and daydream (my fantasy world was my special interest and I would spend most of my time there). Is could be a result of having this "fantasy world" - I mean I was replaying scenes from a novel I read in my head not listening to the teacher or other kids so how could I not be aloof some of the time? I was thinking it might also be a result of intermittent attention because of my ADHD.....the combination of autistic symptoms and ADHD= in own little world, unaware, non responsive sometimes? Did anyone who has been diagnosed with ASD and ADHD have a similar experience?

Note:Other times I did make clumsy attempts to interact and make friends with the other kids though-they were never successful and I was bullied constantly but I was active sometimes too since I was very young.