Will we still get accommodations?
But, since the DSM is changing the name of my disorder, will I even be able to get them?
It's like, I NEED those accommodations. Why? Because I'm AUTISTIC. Asperger's is Autism.
I don't have the money to get re-diagnosed in order to spend more money to get accommodations that I already need in the first place.
I'm just a little irritated, that's all. I don't know what to expect. I'm autistic; I hate change.
Having Asperger doesn't mean you need accommodations, but sadly many with Aspergers cheat the system and get special treatment.
I do need accommodations, but only when it comes to using a computer to do essay tests. I was denied that by the Arizona Board of Education (well really by people halfway across the country, but it was ABoE making the final decision) for my teaching certification exams. They basically gave me the lowest passable score for my essay (despite me generally getting the highest scores on essays all throughout undergrad and grad school). Thankfully my multiple choice answers pulled the score up even farther into the passable parts. I am hardly cheating the system to get something that gives me no real advantage over anyone else.
The fact is everyone would do better with extra time and quiet rooms for testing. Did you get accommodations that would have benefited NTs when you got the highest scores in your undergrad and grad, if so you can't compare your score with everyone else since they did it without special treatment. FYI I feel the same way with people who have ADHD and get accommodations.
I know many do not agree with me on this, but I strongly believe no mater what condition you may or may not have if your accommodations would be an advantage to others without your condition then you should not get those accommodations. The only accommodations that should be permitted are ones that are of no value to anyone else.
The problem with accommodations, is people get used to them. Now, the work place doesn't give a sh** if you need head phones, extra time, whatever.
I have an ADHD friend, who is now an adult. He had all those wonderful accommodations throughout school and university. He is now unemployed because he EXPECTS his potential employer to pony up a quiet spot to work (lol....his job is more cubicle shroom village than office), extended time to finish his tasks.....

Jobs aren't charities. Jobs are to make money for your boss and company. If you are Bill Gates brilliant, they might go the extra mile to help you out. Most folks aren't that. In an ultra competitive NT job market, with NT HR people looking through resumes and conducting interviews, the kiss of death is asking for more than the average wage slave will get.
If the system offers extra time, a separate room for test taking, whatever, and you can get it, why not? I don't blame you. Don't kid yourself, though. If you are going into the regular old job market and fight with everyone else for crumbs, figure out how you can do the work without them.
Remember Disability Services gets funding on how many bodies roll through their system. You getting more time now for classes, will not necessarily help you later on. They won't tell you that part.
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That's the great thing about going into education. So much room for creativity. If I never want to write anything longer than a word by hand, I don't have too. Sure it takes a little extra time, but generally only the first time you do it. Just type everything out, and save it (most people in education save everything and repeat it year to year). My only problem is I get cooperating teachers who don't believe autistics have any place in education, and kick me out for that reason alone. It doesn't matter that they give me good marks, it doesn't matter that I have some near impossible situations that they themselves can't do any better with (only the first time), they don't like me because I am autistic, and kick me out and make it near impossible for me to find a job with an education degree and no certification. Fun times...
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But, since the DSM is changing the name of my disorder, will I even be able to get them?
It's like, I NEED those accommodations. Why? Because I'm AUTISTIC. Asperger's is Autism.
I don't have the money to get re-diagnosed in order to spend more money to get accommodations that I already need in the first place.
I'm just a little irritated, that's all. I don't know what to expect. I'm autistic; I hate change.
Having Asperger doesn't mean you need accommodations, but sadly many with Aspergers cheat the system and get special treatment.
I do need accommodations, but only when it comes to using a computer to do essay tests. I was denied that by the Arizona Board of Education (well really by people halfway across the country, but it was ABoE making the final decision) for my teaching certification exams. They basically gave me the lowest passable score for my essay (despite me generally getting the highest scores on essays all throughout undergrad and grad school). Thankfully my multiple choice answers pulled the score up even farther into the passable parts. I am hardly cheating the system to get something that gives me no real advantage over anyone else.
The fact is everyone would do better with extra time and quiet rooms for testing. Did you get accommodations that would have benefited NTs when you got the highest scores in your undergrad and grad, if so you can't compare your score with everyone else since they did it without special treatment. FYI I feel the same way with people who have ADHD and get accommodations.
I know many do not agree with me on this, but I strongly believe no mater what condition you may or may not have if your accommodations would be an advantage to others without your condition then you should not get those accommodations. The only accommodations that should be permitted are ones that are of no value to anyone else.
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The workplace doesn't accommodate. You don't get extra time to be able to read social cues and follow conversations. Academic performance is meaningless with this sort of thing.
Download a few GRE's/whatever apps from The Pirate Bay if you need to. Once you're used to the way the test works, extra time isn't really needed.
The best academic "accommodation" I've ever gotten was a prescription for proplanalol (beta blockers). Noise and anxiety won't bother you, and it really helps you concentrate. And yes you CAN use this in the workplace also. Very much so.

Can I just remind everyone that the academic environment is different than the workplace. Academics is where you learn material and are expected to regurgitate that learning within very small parameters. Many people's minds don't work this way because of a difference in thinking. They can apply their knowledge on the spot in other circumstances but not in the way that the education system expects them to. When employers look at credentials, they expect your marks to reflect your knowledge more or less. How can you say that they don't know the material when they could show that they know it under some other parameters. It is not the same as the workplace! You aren't learning and being tested on what you know, only applying knowledge in those circumstances. It really irks me to see people making these comparisons!
Besides, I don't know why you would care so much about other people's accommodations if you feel like you don't need them. Feel glad that you don't!
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First of all, thanks for the responses.
Second, I'm applying for a quiet room and extra time. I'm asking about this because I'm concerned that if my psychologist puts "has Asperger's" on the request form that they'll deny it and say "she needs to be diagnosed with ASD level such and such (most likely 2)." That would be BAD.
Third, I think it's preposterous that asking for extra time and a quiet room is somehow "cheating the system."
I lived my whole life thinking I was stupid and lazy because I could never finish a test on time, keep up with a conversation, or do anything in time. It's called slow processing and executive dysfunction. Yes, it can happen with Asperger's.
It explains why I can skip 4 grades of math when I'm left on my own to do it, and then fail it when the teacher won't slow down to help me understand.
It explains why I can get a 3.9 in high school and still not get a comparable SAT because they put you in a room full of noisy people and give you 30 seconds for a math problem that takes you five minutes.
It explains why I can TUTOR a math class, know everything, and still take FIVE HOURS to take an online final, and end up with a meltdown.
So don't chalk it up to me abusing the system before you know why I'm asking, thanks. There are accommodations for people that NEED them, thanks. Oh, and by the way, TWO professionals agree very well that I need these accommodations. Thanks.
Oh, and I have propranolol. But because I have sensory integration issues, slow processing, and a mild speech comprehension delay, I KIND OF NEED extra time.
I would expect these kind of responses from an NT forum where people are happy to make your disability seem invalid.
Remind me not to post this kind of stuff again.
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Oh, and it's illogical to think that because an accommodation will benefit someone else means that you shouldn't have it.
These accommodations might benefit everyone, but normal people can do what I struggle with just fine without accommodations. I get cut short if I don't have them.
That argument is like saying: if we put a wheelchair ramp up to a building, some people won't have to take the stairs, so it benefits more people than the disabled guy in a wheelchair. This is unfair, so we shouldn't have the ramp.
Crap.
But, since the DSM is changing the name of my disorder, will I even be able to get them?
It's like, I NEED those accommodations. Why? Because I'm AUTISTIC. Asperger's is Autism.
I don't have the money to get re-diagnosed in order to spend more money to get accommodations that I already need in the first place.
I'm just a little irritated, that's all. I don't know what to expect. I'm autistic; I hate change.
Having Asperger doesn't mean you need accommodations, but sadly many with Aspergers cheat the system and get special treatment.
Are you on crack?
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But, since the DSM is changing the name of my disorder, will I even be able to get them?
It's like, I NEED those accommodations. Why? Because I'm AUTISTIC. Asperger's is Autism.
I don't have the money to get re-diagnosed in order to spend more money to get accommodations that I already need in the first place.
I'm just a little irritated, that's all. I don't know what to expect. I'm autistic; I hate change.
Having Asperger doesn't mean you need accommodations, but sadly many with Aspergers cheat the system and get special treatment.
Are you on crack?
What about everyone else who rolled with this. It's HURTFUL, and presumptuous, and arrogant.
Untrue. I had a computer (it was a computer based test) for one of the modules I did at uni. We had to do the maths ourselves.
OP - the diagnosis shouldn't change anything. If you need accommodations, you need them. No one here knows your situation, therefore, it's not right for them to judge whether you need extra time, your own room, etc.
I'm sure any professional psychologist will be able to recognize that a diagnosis of AS is synonymous with a diagnosis of ASD under the DSM-V.
Also, in my experience, college accommodation offices don't disclose the nature of your disability, only the accommodations you need. It's a very confidential process. All the staff have some sort of psychology degree and would be able to understand.
Remind me not to post this kind of stuff again.

Don't worry, you're not alone. I use accommodations too, not like it's anyone's business. This is why I don't tell anyone about it. People accuse you of cheating, though I thought the WP community would be more understanding -_- My accommodations are pretty much the same plus some other stuff. I can also take a short break during the test if it's too much, use a computer to type out written work, and some other stuff that helps me take notes and learn using my own learning style as my assessment outlined.
I know what you mean by processing problems.
Oh, and I AM able to hold a job
But, since the DSM is changing the name of my disorder, will I even be able to get them?
It's like, I NEED those accommodations. Why? Because I'm AUTISTIC. Asperger's is Autism.
I don't have the money to get re-diagnosed in order to spend more money to get accommodations that I already need in the first place.
I'm just a little irritated, that's all. I don't know what to expect. I'm autistic; I hate change.
Having Asperger doesn't mean you need accommodations, but sadly many with Aspergers cheat the system and get special treatment.
I do need accommodations, but only when it comes to using a computer to do essay tests. I was denied that by the Arizona Board of Education (well really by people halfway across the country, but it was ABoE making the final decision) for my teaching certification exams. They basically gave me the lowest passable score for my essay (despite me generally getting the highest scores on essays all throughout undergrad and grad school). Thankfully my multiple choice answers pulled the score up even farther into the passable parts. I am hardly cheating the system to get something that gives me no real advantage over anyone else.
The fact is everyone would do better with extra time and quiet rooms for testing. Did you get accommodations that would have benefited NTs when you got the highest scores in your undergrad and grad, if so you can't compare your score with everyone else since they did it without special treatment. FYI I feel the same way with people who have ADHD and get accommodations.
I know many do not agree with me on this, but I strongly believe no mater what condition you may or may not have if your accommodations would be an advantage to others without your condition then you should not get those accommodations. The only accommodations that should be permitted are ones that are of no value to anyone else.
My uncle has dyslexia so he always had a hard time with reading. He could never get far with his career because he could never do time on the tests. His disability takes him longer to do it so limited time made him unable to finish and he get so frustrated he quit. Back then they didn't have laws to protect people with disabilities. He could go back and get far in his career again but he has given up I hear.
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Agreed. I have been accusing of faking it, that I don't need my extra time, etc. I need rest breaks due to how difficult it is for me to read and process information properly.