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05 Jul 2014, 6:42 am

I don't want to be normal, but then I think even NTs don't think they are normal, just more normal than people on the autistic spectrum.


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05 Jul 2014, 6:47 am

I'm not sure what normal is. I don't know what NTs really experience. I would be far too wary of wishing to be something I don't really understand and have trouble imagining. It might be awful and come with a whole other set of challenges. I don't know.

There have been a lot of experiences in my life which have been horrible and really hard to get through, but I wouldn't change who I am within myself, my identity and the person I am. I think we all have value so wishing for homogeneity wouldn't necessarily be a good thing at all. Wishing for normality seems an awful lot like hoping for for mediocrity, sure it might mean having abilities I don't have but it would also mean losing some great gifts which are a huge part of myself and give me a real purpose in life. Like I said, I'm not really sure what normal is - I do know that thinking about it makes me very uncomfortable.

Also... Rocking, flapping, childishness and frequent, often public, hysterical, tearful meltdowns describe me rather well. Those aren't exclusive to any one part of the spectrum. ;)

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05 Jul 2014, 11:59 am

Not when all normal people can do with their time is gossip about idiotic things such as someone missing a dart board and accidentally hitting the wall instead.

I don't suppose any of them have considered that

1 I was a bit tipsy (it was around new year, the only time of year I drink these days)

2 I didn't have my glasses on (I have a convergencey insufficiency meaning I don't have reliable 3D vision and can have issues with depth perception and misjudge distances as well as having hand eye coordination issues) becuaes I could not find them and they don't always help anyway (severity of condition varies depending on any factor that can affect the muscles in my eye such as alcohol).

3 I jsut don't play darts very often and have terrible aim

Yet they gossip like I was trying to cause trouble and cause deliberate damage to the wall....

I hate being surrounded by imbeciles.



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05 Jul 2014, 12:04 pm

I've spent most of my life wishing I'd never been born at all.

I've never... not once... EVER... wished I was "normal".

I mostly wish I'd never been born BECAUSE of "normal" people. I hate them. I hate having to share a world with them. I frequently wish I could kill them all in a massive orgy of blood and gore. BUT since I can't even do something so simple as kill myself... I tend to just sit around and grump and hope that I randomly die in the near future to save me from having to put up with this festering s**thole of a world any longer.



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05 Jul 2014, 1:15 pm

The only thing I would really change is that I could fit in better socially and understand social situations. I don't want to change how I dress (baggy jeans and a graphic tee is fine with me), or change my hobbies, or my values, or start going to bars/clubs on my time off. Just want to understand social situations better, like when to speak, what tone to use, when to use humor, etc.

I also wish that I had the brain circuitry to respond to peoples body language instinctively, instead of having to observe/analyze, or as I have heard, "Watch, wait, imitate."

But still, I hear the term 'normal,' and I think of all the 'normal' NTs in different cliques that consider each other inferior/lesser peoples. So maybe 'normal' is not all it's cracked up to be.



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05 Jul 2014, 1:31 pm

Well yes and no,

The yes being that I would be able to fit in an NT world not worrying about sticking out like sore thumb and/or making a social faux pas and also being able to pick up on subtle hints and/or better read people's facial expressions.

The no being that I've developed a great knowledge in two areas that I like the first being Billy Joel's music career and the 2nd Video/Broadcast/Technology which may help me later on in securing a job in the field that I want to get into.

I wish there were a way I could be a little bit more NT and yet still have the knowledge that I have but on the other hand I don't really want to fit into a mold I kinda like being different but not too different.... :?


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05 Jul 2014, 1:33 pm

Well, if by 'normal' you mean 'not autistic' and being fully equipped and able in terms of social skills, then yes, I would very much like to be normal.

It could be said that my efforts toward acquiring social skills and honing them, are an attempt to get closer to 'normalcy' in that definition.

I don't think I can ever get rid of the 'mindblindness' and the severely impaired empathic skills, though, so that's always going to be a hazy area.


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05 Jul 2014, 1:48 pm

Normal what's this thing called normal you speak of ?

In reality sometimes but then I snap out of it.


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05 Jul 2014, 6:44 pm

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05 Jul 2014, 7:27 pm

kind of, but then I think it would be like wishing to not exist and there being a completely different person in my place. I would never see the benefit as it wouldn't be me.



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05 Jul 2014, 8:51 pm

All these responses have actually helped me come to realise that I don't want to be normal. I guess it helps hearing it from other people who go through similar situations and have the same diagnoses instead of hearing therapists spew the same crap at you.

I like my personality. Even though I can be overly rude at times, childish, naive, eccentric and more than a little sensitive; It's what makes me... me. And obviously I'm not THAT unbearable as I do manage to hold a lot of friends and have started to be really outgoing with new people.

I just wish that NTs didn't look down at me after public meltdowns or because I'm rocking/jumping/flapping my arms.


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05 Jul 2014, 9:13 pm

wavecannon wrote:
Nope, but I wish others could be a tiny bit more tolerant.


That's the exact way I feel. I don't wish to be normal, though people could be more tolerant towards everyone's differences instead of expecting the entire human population to fit into perfect little molds. My mum shouldn't expect me to live in her present, when my present suits me just fine.


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05 Jul 2014, 9:17 pm

I always thought I was normal, and the others the weirdos who follow a rule of how to behave in society.



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05 Jul 2014, 9:19 pm

Nope! I'm exceptional! If all my fellow aspies accepted that, we would rule!! !


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12 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm

Normal= all those people you do not know very well.


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12 Jul 2014, 6:35 pm

Normal... There's no such thing as a normal, but your tolerance or resistance to cultural and societal pressures.

What I do is normal, what others think is normal for me is no business of mine.


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