Undercover Cop Tricks Autistic Student into Selling Him Weed
The problem is ENTRAPMENT.
Undercover cops can present the opportunity to commit a crime.
On prostitution, they can stand on the corner, but they can't offer themselves to people. The target has to come to them and offer to pay them for sex. Anything that actively entices the target (other than dressing like a hooker) deprives the person of the free will to decide to break the law via the undercover cop's influence to do the wrong thing.
On drugs, it's the same. A cop can look like a dealer, but they can't pressure or offer their "goods" to someone else.
What the cop did here was force a bond with a minor and emotionally pressure him to break the law to satisfy the needs of friendship. It's clear entrapment if that's the fact pattern.
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And along with entrapment, the cop was his first ever "friend". Of course he wouldn't want to lose him, and would get him drugs if he thought he could maintain his only friendship like that. And the video makes it clear that he was far more upset about the betrayal than getting into trouble, which is the really awful thing about it.
Yeah, the more I think about this case the more it pisses me off. You have to wonder how many more cases like this there are that we don't know about. All this just over weed........
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The kid was desperate for a friend I know. But he said no over and over and the cop kept pushing it until he gave up and then the kid finally did it to save their "friendship." Rule of thumb, if a "friend" tries to get you to do anything illegal, they are not your friend. They also wouldn't dump you either if you refused to break the law.
I think it's wrong to do this to any child, autism or not. But doing it to a special needs person is a cop out and lazy. Especially to someone who is more vulnerable. I think people would still be disgusted if done to a NT kid but not as disgusted as they are with this one. Ever heard of peer pressure?
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Saw a thread on this a few months ago.
If you think about it, the kids (at least Jesse and the others interviewed in the video) weren't actually selling the drugs, and the undercover cop was the one who was buying them. He basically was just passing the money through the kids to get the drugs. Why did they go after the poor kids, who, until being nagged about drugs relentlessly, didn't even know where to get the stuff. Why didn't 'Daniel Briggs' go after, oh gee, I don't know...the dealers who gave the kids the drugs?*
Favorite part of the video: 11:05 - 11:06
*Yes, I know why. Just making a point.
The teenager wasn't a drug dealer and had never bought drugs before in his life until that undercover cop pressured him into it. He refused to buy them many times, and only finally caved because his "friend" the cop threatened to never talk to him again if he didn't.
All the other teens who the cop tried to trick were smart enough to realize that he was an adult; the street-smart kids actually realized he was a cop and stayed away. They joked about it. This teen with AS was just taken advantage of. The only thing he did wrong was to want friendship too badly and trust to deeply.
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The teenager wasn't a drug dealer and had never bought drugs before in his life until that undercover cop pressured him into it. He refused to buy them many times, and only finally caved because his "friend" the cop threatened to never talk to him again if he didn't.
All the other teens who the cop tried to trick were smart enough to realize that he was an adult; the street-smart kids actually realized he was a cop and stayed away. They joked about. This teen with AS was just taken advantage of. The only thing he did wrong was to want friendship too badly and trust to deeply.
Question is, why didn't they warn the student?
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Because nobody cared. Nobody was his friend, as far as I can tell.
Yep.
Basically.
And let's be real: Having the undercover cop waste his time on a nerd was good for the actual teenage drug dealers. Took the heat off.
Edit: Also, thinking about it more, this kid was probably used to being lied to and teased by classmates; so, even if someone tired to warn him, why would he believe the warning?
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Going and getting ripped off for 20$ on weed and ending up with barely a 5$ sack and bringing it back to the undercover cop who he thought was another student and his friend, just so he could keep from letting him down hardly counts as 'dealing drugs' also there is the factor of would he have even attempted to purchase or even use marijuana if it hadn't been for this undercover scum pressuring him to do so..
I know it really does feel terrible when you think someone is you're friend but they've just been trying to set you up/screw you over the whole time, just a disgusting situation all around.
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If so then they have failed as parents.
Also, mixing medications with recreational drugs is very dangerous.
This sort of behavior could cause the boy to have a seizure, kidney failure, or death.
School is not the place for recreational drugs, and certainly not the illegal drug trade.
Then perhaps cops shouldn't encourage it by posing as students and pressuring people to use/buy drugs....
Meh I don't really care if people do drugs or not, and simply think there should be adequate help for addiction issues people could develop with excessive use. Many people disagree with marijuana for instance being illegal, has been legalized in states and some states are going to be voting on it........so don't really see how someone has failed as a parent if they've used recreational drugs........but then I do not think recreational drug use is morally wrong either .
I found out my youngest brother did drugs in high school. Peer pressure.
I found out my brother, not the youngest of them was smoking weed at 12....he and his friend would sneak a bit of that friends dads and go out into the mountains/forest and smoke it, from what I understand it was more mischief than peer pressure though....and I didn't even know what marijuana really was till I was like 15 and even then I was still fuzzy on it....finally tried it when I was 16 visiting relatives more from curiosity than anything and probably somewhat of liking to be included in an activity.
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Americans are so caught in black and white, good and evil thinking. I don't even think it was "dealing" per se rather sharing with what this teenager thought was a friend. I don't think the police knew that this kid has Aspergers. Hopefully, the district attorney does the right thing and sees that there is nothing good to come from punishment of an already significantly disadvantaged human being. However, we have a hang'em up and fry'em mentality. Either that or some district attorney is going to try to make his reputation on being tough on crime. Shame to make a reputation at the expense of a disabled person .....
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If so then they have failed as parents.
Also, mixing medications with recreational drugs is very dangerous.
This sort of behavior could cause the boy to have a seizure, kidney failure, or death.
School is not the place for recreational drugs, and certainly not the illegal drug trade.
Then perhaps cops shouldn't encourage it by posing as students and pressuring people to use/buy drugs....
Meh I don't really care if people do drugs or not, and simply think there should be adequate help for addiction issues people could develop with excessive use. Many people disagree with marijuana for instance being illegal, has been legalized in states and some states are going to be voting on it........so don't really see how someone has failed as a parent if they've used recreational drugs........but then I do not think recreational drug use is morally wrong either .
I found out my youngest brother did drugs in high school. Peer pressure.
During my HS years, many of my peers at the time used drugs by using them in the school bathrooms, yet school administration didn't give a care.
However, during her HS years, my sister was a secret informant to school administration because she never used illegal drugs herself.
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Because nobody cared. Nobody was his friend, as far as I can tell.
Yep.
Basically.
And let's be real: Having the undercover cop waste his time on a nerd was good for the actual teenage drug dealers. Took the heat off.
Edit: Also, thinking about it more, this kid was probably used to being lied to and teased by classmates; so, even if someone tired to warn him, why would he believe the warning?
Then the problem would be on the kid unfortunately but at least it would mean someone did try. Then he would regret not listening to that person when he or she tried telling him.
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If so then they have failed as parents.
Also, mixing medications with recreational drugs is very dangerous.
This sort of behavior could cause the boy to have a seizure, kidney failure, or death.
School is not the place for recreational drugs, and certainly not the illegal drug trade.
Then perhaps cops shouldn't encourage it by posing as students and pressuring people to use/buy drugs....
Meh I don't really care if people do drugs or not, and simply think there should be adequate help for addiction issues people could develop with excessive use. Many people disagree with marijuana for instance being illegal, has been legalized in states and some states are going to be voting on it........so don't really see how someone has failed as a parent if they've used recreational drugs........but then I do not think recreational drug use is morally wrong either .
I found out my youngest brother did drugs in high school. Peer pressure.
I found out my brother, not the youngest of them was smoking weed at 12....he and his friend would sneak a bit of that friends dads and go out into the mountains/forest and smoke it, from what I understand it was more mischief than peer pressure though....and I didn't even know what marijuana really was till I was like 15 and even then I was still fuzzy on it....finally tried it when I was 16 visiting relatives more from curiosity than anything and probably somewhat of liking to be included in an activity.
Is there really a different thought? Kids will sometimes do things just because their friends are doing it or see their classmates doing it. "If they jumped off a bridge, would you jump off the bridge?"
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