For those that believe Autism is good, what are your reasons

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31 Oct 2015, 2:14 pm

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Yeah I am not on the autism makes me the special snowflake I am or whatever bandwagon. For me it is an impairment and a disability.


^this. in my experience with being semi-officially diagnosed with autism, it's been a horrible burden to me. for example, one day when i was starting at a new school, i went there on the first day with my aunt, and when we were meeting all of the teachers and staff and stuff, she told them 'oh this girl has autism and selective mutism, so this is why she's gonna be acting weird sometimes'. and i was so pissed at her for telling them that, i just wanted a chance to be in a new school, have a new start, and not carry any of the stigma that autism brings. but then she completely f****d that up for me.

there's a chance that i'm going to get a re-evaluation, and if they decide that i don't have autism after all, honestly i'll be delighted. the whole idea of being socially ret*d just makes me feel like a piece of crap.


Yeah. There's a reason I don't tell people about my autism. To me it's not their business, it's mine. I'll share it if and when that seems relevant and like a good idea.

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For those that want treatment/cure be sure to check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Mitchell


Oh cool, I'll check that out. Thanks!


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01 Nov 2015, 4:36 am

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I have the Neurodiversity view in that i think society should accept and would gain from bieng more accepting of different way of thinking and expression. I also believe that the partial or total reason many feel autism is a curse is non acceptance to hostility from society and the people they are dealing with.

But I do realize autism besides the differences has real impairments associated with it. I do not know where all these posters get the idea the supporting Neurodiversity means viewing Autism as only good. That idea of neurodiverse view does not represent the vast majority of the neurodiverse supporters I read here and elsewhere. I resent reading this constantly.

For all of the above when a poster says Autism is a curse in their life I can't assume they are wrong. I am not living their life. There is far to much of neurotypicals telling autistics what to think for me to tell another autistic how to view thier life. One of the tenants of Neurodiversity is let Autistics speak for themselves. That goes for autistics views of autism we do not like.


"Curse" feels too strong to me. It's a bit fatalistic, really. I've used that terminology specifically when someone uses something like "gift" to describe it, just to get right to the point... but "Problem", "disability", "impairment" are more the terms I think of. So... changing society can maybe mitigate those things, but it does not make them all better. I don't see acceptance or understanding actually solving anything outright; just making it easier to work on. Which is good, I'll agree.

As to that perception of neurodiversity that galls you so much... I do have it. A lot of my contact with advocates for the idea has built on and reinforced that view. Over time, it got twisted in my mind to the point where a hefty dose of confirmation bias goes on when I hear anyone bring up the subject and it takes conscious, concerted effort to push that back and actually listen rather than dismissing it all out of hand. It's entirely possible I've heard more reasonable explanations but refused to accept them and so I don't remember them as such.

I'm trying to listen with a more open mind, now.

Good for you. Doing that should help you.


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01 Nov 2015, 5:31 am

Personally, I can only see the negatives aspects of the condition. I have no creative talents; I am devoid of all emotion; I cannot relate to anything - real or artificial - I have a low IQ; my memory is shocking; 99.9999% of the time I have zero interests and thus my life feels - and probably is - pointless. Not everyone who is autistic is a Temple Grandin or a Steve Jobs. People seem to forget that.


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01 Nov 2015, 4:32 pm

Autism is ok if you have at least one of the following, and great if you have all of the following:-

-You are intelligent and able to focus on special interests for hours

-You are entitled disability benefits and don't have to work

-You have more Aspies in your family so you're not the only one

-You don't have self-awareness and other people's thoughts and feelings don't affect you


Otherwise, when you're like me; desires friends, fascinated by NTs, get highly anxious about work but still have to work because you're too high-functioning to be awarded disability money, too self-conscious, worry about social approval, and feel different from most other Aspies but yet you're not quite NT. That's when Asperger's sucks rats balls.


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01 Nov 2015, 5:46 pm

You are comfortable in your own company and don't need the attention of others.


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01 Nov 2015, 9:23 pm

I don't know that I see my autism as good, per se. After all, all the things I find "good," I might not feel were good if I weren't autistic - if that makes sense.

I think of it as more of a neutral thing.



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02 Nov 2015, 9:20 am

Joe90 wrote:
Autism is ok if you have at least one of the following, and great if you have all of the following:-

-You are intelligent and able to focus on special interests for hours

-You are entitled disability benefits and don't have to work

-You have more Aspies in your family so you're not the only one

-You don't have self-awareness and other people's thoughts and feelings don't affect you


Otherwise, when you're like me; desires friends, fascinated by NTs, get highly anxious about work but still have to work because you're too high-functioning to be awarded disability money, too self-conscious, worry about social approval, and feel different from most other Aspies but yet you're not quite NT. That's when Asperger's sucks rats balls.


I have the first one, mostly. I can't focus on special interests so much as I can't quit thinking. Some of the last one, but less now than ever.

I wouldn't change. Sure it stinks, but I like the way it stinks. For me it is about logic, I don't think I've ever seen a comment here that was illogical unless it was a clear meltdown. Even then, it's mostly just logically obsessing over something that one would otherwise let go of, or dealing with some sensory issue that really makes sense once you apply a little logical empathy. It's why we tend to do better in technical roles, because technical communication is exact - it's literal.

I wish I had gotten better care in school, I wish I had a better understanding of how to be this way, I wish there was more material on normal behavior (pretty typical to not establish any sort of norm don't you think?), but I don't wish I was fundamentally different. It's not like normals don't have problems, because they do, they have a lot of problems. I think it's a lot like being jealous of someone, well you really don't know what they have or don't have. They might have a nice car and a nice family, but it could really just look like that and you might actually not trade things at all, you just don't know the whole picture, so you think in terms of what you've seen and what you want rather than what you actually have or what they actually have.

I say, keep your chin up and smile, until you see some social evidence that you should do otherwise, then play it out until it's time to keep your chin up again.


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