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Kosmonaut
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19 Apr 2007, 9:03 am

The PUA technique is for approaching.
I think it is a different situation when you already are familiar with their company (ie. friends for some years) and they procrastinate about leaving.

An old friend at university always had problems leaving a room. He would say he was leaving, then get involved in a conversation again; then say he was leaving and.. etc.
Friends would have some fun with this by asking a question as he was about to leave. He could be half-way out of the door for quite some time before managing to escape. When he did leave they would have a laugh it. I don't know if he was aware of this ( he was most probably aspie), but it was never malicious just a bit of fun.
I never got involved with this; at times annoying but not overly so.



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19 Apr 2007, 9:11 am

I find it more annoying on internet forums when people post to say that they are leaving, then they are still posting the next day.
It's like they want random strangers to beg them not to go.
If you are going to go, then just go.

In a pub it is more understandable because the temptation to stay and have another pint can be strong. Even so, if you mostly stay until closing time there is no point in making a big deal about staying for another all night long.



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19 Apr 2007, 9:29 am

Kosmonaut wrote:
I find it more annoying on internet forums when people post to say that they are leaving, then they are still posting the next day.
It's like they want random strangers to beg them not to go.
If you are going to go, then just go.

In a pub it is more understandable because the temptation to stay and have another pint can be strong. Even so, if you mostly stay until closing time there is no point in making a big deal about staying for another all night long.


The forums thing is more annoying. It's just that people say they are going and then stop and have a few more pints. Each and every sodding time.



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19 Apr 2007, 9:38 am

Kosmonaut wrote:
The PUA technique is for approaching.
I think it is a different situation when you already are familiar with their company (ie. friends for some years) and they procrastinate about leaving.

First of all, while for some may be a technique, for others is just natural to behave this way. At worst is a kind of manipulative deceit, and yet it is effective in achieving its goals, to stay with other people long enough that you may have more chances to hear something from which you could benefit. On the positive side, you get carried away by emotions, which is a thing NTs like.

And I don't think it's that a different situation. My flatmate did it as a routine, and we already know each other.



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19 Apr 2007, 10:30 am

Zhaozhou wrote:
Kosmonaut wrote:
The PUA technique is for approaching.
I think it is a different situation when you already are familiar with their company (ie. friends for some years) and they procrastinate about leaving.

First of all, while for some may be a technique, for others is just natural to behave this way. At worst is a kind of manipulative deceit, and yet it is effective in achieving its goals, to stay with other people long enough that you may have more chances to hear something from which you could benefit. On the positive side, you get carried away by emotions, which is a thing NTs like.

And I don't think it's that a different situation. My flatmate did it as a routine, and we already know each other.


Yes, i am not a natural.

Though I do see them as different situations, but there will be times when they are similar.
eg. Do you think your flatmate is trying to pick you up?



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19 Apr 2007, 10:46 am

Kosmonaut wrote:
eg. Do you think your flatmate is trying to pick you up?

Maybe there is a better word than "pick up" for this, since we are both males :) Yet the rules of attraction (charisma, you could say) works in a general way, not just in the male/female dynamic.

What I know is that it worked with my other flatmates. I was the only one leaving the room, although the second time I noticed immediately it was a pattern, and in the third time I subverted my instinct and stayed.