USA Today story on adults with AS.

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Ok, if Aspies don't marry and form close relationships, and AS has a genetic cause, WHERE ARE WE ALL COMING FROM?!?!?!?

Also, how does one conduct a scientific study with one's head lodged inside their rectum? Does Yale have special resources for that?

I have no children at age 50. I have been married for 28 years.....OOOPPPSSS! OH MY GAWD! Two people who have never met me declare that I can't possibly be married and be an Aspie...... Only 1 out of 2.....

Did they ever take into account that I have not been able to work the last 8 years due to the social problems I faced in the work place? HELL NO! Did they take into account the fact that the ONLY friend I have in this world is my wife? HELL NO! Did they take into account the character of my wife and her committment to me in a very stormy relationship all these years where she has had to do without a lot of things---including and especially children---due to my being on the spectrum? HELL NO!

Nothing pisses me off more than people like those "experts" who make such sweeping and obviously ignorant generalizations. They ought to know better than that.

Oh, that's excellent! Well said, and damn true!

I agree 100%.

Selection pressure?

You're all aliens. :/

I do not have my head in the bloody sand.

Interesting atricle....Here at the neurorehab. where I work a lot of the staff don't seem to know much about AS( but most of the specialists here do), but we have had residents here with it and staff members (obviously...), and NO ONE has come up with the same "findings" as those Yale "experts".....It's cool that you sent USA Today a letter, I would be interested in knowing how or if they respond....

Today I still keep thinking if I am one of those people who have been misdiagnosed.

Aspergers was recognized in 1994 but Hans origional paper on AS was translated into English in 1991 in the USA.


The article showed Laine Holliday Willey with her family so it does show people with AS can be married and have kids.

The article was quoting someone when it said people with AS don't want to date or have relationships or have friends.

I used to not care AT ALL! NOW, I care a bit, but not as much as some may think.

Last edited by 2ukenkerl on 31 Jul 2007, 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

That has to be one of the worst articles on Asperger’s Syndrome in recent days. AS is no longer a new condition, there has been so much publicity for this “rare condition” that reading all the major news articles alone would be quite an undertaking. Given the volume of readily accessible information, it is almost negligent that the journalist did not dig deeper.

To say that Aspies do not seek human contact is defamatory. For almost everyone here on this board, even a recluse like myself, connections with other human beings form part of our deepest desires. But when you have been let down so often, in ways that were brutal or just plain cruel, a certain aloof guardedness is understandable. And Aspies are treated badly in the give and take of any relationships they are in. If we seek to be by ourselves, it comes from a profound awareness that the problems we face in our social endeavors derive from within. Autism is the source of the difficulties; much of which is neither explainable nor definable but yet very real.

The article dehumanizes all Aspies and blatantly advertises the services of yet another quack who claims to know how to teach you to overcome autism. It is nothing less than a disgrace.

But we LIKE consistency...don't we?

Do you know what? The more I look into this (I didn't for years, I was ok with "that explains me, half my bio family and all the best weirdos I ever knew...WAY KOOL!!") I realise that even the BEST of *them* haven't got the FIRST CLUE what goes on inside us...

...and as for "why"...a parent who wanted out of the "refrigerator mother" theory couldn't make a worse mess of it...

Except...did you ever Google Lorna Wing?

Oh well, at least she wasn't a "curebie", or was she??? I daren't look...

Just to make it worse, take it back to the root and "Oncle Hans" himself may have had his objectivity addled by the need to keep the boys he worked with as far from Aktion T4 as possible...

I have a little theory I get more sure of by the day...a "low function" Aspie is simply an highly disturbed adult who happens to have AS...except that cockeyed ways of addressing the manifestations of AS (whether diagnosed or not) did most of the "disturbing"...and cockeyed efforts to fix it since go on making them more, and more, disturbed...world without end...amen...

M

PS BTW, I don't know the answers myself, BUT...at least I KNOW that I don't know the answers...which would seem to put me WAY ahead..

I wonder why people quote posts but don't say anyhting at all. Or do they mean to say something but their message never appeared under the quote?

Perhaps I am not seeing something but there seems to be a very "unscientific flaw" the reasoning that these people from Yale are making.

Any adult who has AS DX but is married is not AS because we say that it is counter to being AS,so we DX them as not being AS and therfore...No one with AS is married or breeds.What kind of circular reasoning ,such as this,can pass scientific scrutiny?

There needs to be much more research about how AS effects and exhibits in females.The generalizations about "people with AS"are based on conclussions made from observing and testing males,this is very unscientific.I am curious as to the connection of the increase in religious belief and the decline of rigorous scientific and logic conclussions.I think there is a corrilation but would need some hard numbers to say this definatevly...unlike the "scientists" at Yale,I dont create theories and then design circular logic to justify my therories.

I am an aspie who has been in repeated relationships which Ithink is much easier for some females(especially those of us who "put out")wonder if they factored that into their thereries?I had no desire to marry or reproduce because I questioned societies rituals concerning pair bonding and want to be in a relationship that involves a partner that can leave if they it is not "working" without the issues involved in devorce.I chose not to breed because I have never been happy on this planet and saw no point of bringing another being into it who may suffer my predisposition to depression(previous to any knowedge of AS).
I had a desire to "belong" or have friends in my teens and twenties that declined over the years because a careful "cost analysis" seemed to indicate that most of the RL relationships were painful for all those involved,as I needed to much "personal time" and didnt tolerate people who tried to change my AS traits(before I even knew they were AS,just saw them as ME.)I have found someone who excepts me as I am and seems to need as much personal space as I do and it has worked great but no need to marry out of social convictions and no desire to breed.I have no idea if this is AS related or other life experiences that have led me to these beliefs.....and neither do these "experts".The As eople they were describing sounded like ones who were also effected by schizotypal personality,which only effects a percentage of those with AS but is not a criteria for the DX.If they disagree with the DX...thats a whole "nother kettle of fish".

These Yaleys are taking biased observations and plucking theory out of thin air
by picking and choosing which facts fit and which don't. This kind of work is so
bad "it's not even wrong".