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Kalister1
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03 Dec 2007, 10:51 pm

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Give it time my friend: all forms of mediocrity and nonconformity will one day have a psychological label!

"Deal with it" is very funny for a disorder partially characterized by poor executive function.

Your attitudes are very constructive when held by an individual, and come close to my opinions; but when told to someone with crap self esteem: just one more kick to the ego. One should be wary of that Pygmalion infatuation with one's own beliefs: in the third person, people are still robots.


Oh yes they will.

As paradoxical as it might sound, Im asking you to consider it.

Right, but it very likely will not allow them to fall into a pit of despair, and instead rise up to meet their problems. I don't know if we're robots, but that goes into an argument : are we bound by the walls of the human condition, or can we rise up above human, or are we bound by the human but can still rise above it. (as paradoxical as that sounds). Questions that I don't know the answer to..Pygmalion effect looks like a psychological placebo, and it would be great to implant that in all the aspies here. Awesome. I just think that once we start thinking that we are predetermined, we begin to believe that we can't, and so we don't.

I really hope. I believe you. My belief in pre-determined man, and not, fluctuates as the day goes on.



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03 Dec 2007, 11:31 pm

I joined WP a little over six months ago, and the sheer variety of people and points of view represented here continues to astonish. A newcomer might think, "I'm posting about something that has probably been mentioned already dozens of times." But that happens less often than you might expect. And even if it has come up before, who in their right mind :mrgreen: wants to scroll through hundreds of pages to find out? And who says the discussion is going to play out exactly the same way it did the last time?

There have been a couple of times when I've thought, didn't we just beat this subject into the ground a short while ago? :) As when THIS THREAD - LINK was started, not long after a seven-page discussion on much the same theme had taken place in A PREVIOUS THREAD - LINK. mmaestro did the right thing by posting a link to the earlier discussion.

Sometimes it's not so much "annoyance" as a wish to save others from having to... reinvent the wheel, as it were. Not that any of us gets the obsessive urge to correct everything that we see around us. Oh noooo no no no. I mean, that's not a typical Aspie trait or anything, is it? :lol:



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04 Dec 2007, 12:38 am

Just be yourself.



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04 Dec 2007, 12:59 am

I'm a big fan of working with what is, and seeing the world without illusion (not that I'm always successful at it). Anyone who takes the time to think about it knows that there is no choosing "which you'd rather be." You either are on the autism spectrum, or you aren't. What is interesting here is the attitudinal factor. Do you make a virtue out of a necessity by looking only for the positives? Do you see yourself as broken, and curse the fates for making you as you are? Or some position in between?

Finding out about people's individual viewpoints on these questions is interesting.

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