Who wants to swarm the Judge Rotenberg Center...

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Your right

All how you word it..

Politics is nonsense, huh?

Alright, so we first need to access our resources. Figure out how many people we have who will be able to rally. A second step is to form a plan. Now, do we have contact with anyone in the center? Any way to access the building plans? Any good hackers?
We need to be able to get in and out quickly and efficiently! It's all about information right now.
And how are we going to deal with the staff? What kind of security do they have? How will we protect our identities and avoid capture/recapture? How can we break locks?
At least for the kids we rescue from the center, we may need to keep them in a remote area for a while, until the situation dies down. As for us, we hopefully will have protected our identities. Of course someone will have to stay to manage the retreat. We'll also need to pool some money for the retreat so we can stock supplies and such...
We should also have an idea of what routes we're going to take when we're on the streets...someway we can escape the police. Then we meet up and go to the retreat location. In all likely-hood, many people would get caught. But maybe enough would escape to make it worthwhile.
Like a movie! Like I said, fun to think about.
On a more serious note, what movements exist that maybe we could join into?

If she were serious and wanted help, I'd go.

I go the message, and figured it was for the random board rp, not real life.

oye vey.

Then again, I'd have all the ex cons I know backing me up. and several hackers as well.


though can someone tell me what she has against this place?? I've never heard of it.

I'll just call people who know people who know other people who know worse people.

Read 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'.
It has some relevance to this situation

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Hey wait a second if this electro shock stuff is working then maybe i want to bust in. Is 35 too old?

I have a pick up truck, you could borrow it I guess but its better suited for moving someones couch than acting as a refugee escape vehicle.

I briefly researched the Judge Rotenberg Center and it seems the problem with them is that they use skin shock treatments. I see why this may be a problem. We don't want them turning kids into robots and forcing them to conform to normal standards. However, according to their website at http://www.judgerc.org/ skin shock treatments are only use when everything else is tried for 11 months and fails to reduce dangerously aggressive behaviors. It seems shock treatments are only used to treat dangerous and aggressive behaviors and not autistic traits or other behaviors. Skin shock treatments usually reduced aggressive behaviors in a few weeks. Their approach reduces the need for children to be physically restrained (children have died at other places while being restrained), allows them to go out in the community and eventually return home after their behavior has improved. I think I actually prefer their approach. Most placements for these children use powerful and dangerous psychotropic drugs to control them and make it easier for the staff to deal with them. The Judge Rotenberg Center opposes these psychotropic drugs. Their program plus skin shocks used as a last result eliminate the need for these dangerous drugs.

If you read their site at http://www.judgerc.org/ and still oppose the shock treatments, what do you propose be done instead?

I'm high-functioning autistic. If I had to be sent to a placement for bothering society, I think I'd rather go to the Judge Rothenberg Center instead of other placements that use drugs and restraints to control their residents.

I'd like to know what you think even if you don't agree with me. Please tell me if there's anything else I should know about the Judge Rothenberg Center or anything else.

I have tried convincing her before to take rational action. She just wants to draw attention to herself, and to make it look "romantic" and "daring" to break into the center. No matter what you say, she will still stick to just wanting to break into there and come out as the dashing hero.

The idea that they only use it in "Worst-case scenarios" is part of their propaganda.

I also blogged an entire description of a video freely available on the web, that detailed Why students praise the judge rotenberg center (that's a link). Just about as soon as I blogged it, they took the video down. That is basically how they condition both students and parents (students through the parents) to not complain and to say good things about the place.

All reports that are actually reliable seem to say they have those things fitted onto all kinds of people, not just severely aggressive or severely self-injurious, and they use them for such minor infractions as giving staff snotty looks or not solving computer problems fast enough or anything else. (This is what would be likely to happen, also, based on the Stanford Prison Experiment and similar things.)

As a person who's been to a lot of psych institutions that used looks to cover the hell that went on inside them ("we'll just paint the walls whenever blood gets on them and fix them the next day after they get broken..."), I was immediately alarmed by the appearance of the decor in the Judge Rotenberg Center which is like... if they spent that much money making it look pretty then it's got to be a hellhole in there, they were hiding something.

Anyway, they use those shocks for everything. It's also alarming to me that people who are the most at risk of being abused, which is to say those with severe problems, are also most at risk of being tortured in the name of treatment. It shouldn't be like that. And a lot of people get shocks even when it's clear that the shocks have no effect other than terrifying the person. One woman got extreme aversives (not shocks but other things) until the day she died, with her death and the reasons for it, themselves, being covered up by the JRC to begin with. All the signs she gave of being severely and life-threateningly ill... she was given aversives for every single sign she had.

It's a bad place.

And as someone who used to have severe self-injury and violence, I really don't like the idea that somehow someone like me would've deserved to be zapped if we were sent there. (I was sent to another "place of last resort," there are places like that all over the country and JRC is not telling the truth when they act like the only one. And I was physically abused at that place in the name of helping me, as well as at the place before it.)

Anyway, these places are horrible, and if we have international laws that would consider this a war crime if done to an enemy during a war, then surely doing this to innocent citizens of our own country (whether it's called "treatment" or not) ought to be pretty evil too?!?

Also, they don't really work even in the scenarios they're touted as "working" in, they just make someone dependent on the shocking device. (And by the way, this is not electroshock, it is electric shock, there's a difference.)