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28 May 2008, 6:11 am

interesting alot of your concepts have also gone through my head before. Such as is morality just a human dilusion. if god was true why would he have several religions. Humans may create alot of things just to ignore truth. but without these delusions we have no hope.



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28 May 2008, 6:29 am

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interesting alot of your concepts have also gone through my head before. Such as is morality just a human dilusion. if god was true why would he have several religions. Humans may create alot of things just to ignore truth. but without these delusions we have no hope.

But that is just it...
What do we need hope for?

We don't live for our own sakes. Over 99% of life on this planet is only living because it is programmed to do so. It is arbitrary. Life as we know it is an accidental blip on this planet, which itself is no more than a random blip somewhere in the Universe.
We don't NEED to live. We don't NEED anything. We can be, within our carbon-based limitations, pretty much however we want to be... and do as we want to do.... if only we get rid of the stupid idea that being alive is a compulsory outcome.
Granted, we will cease to exist once we die.... but that is no excuse not to make an ultimately fatal course of action more interesting.


Yes. Nature only makes people be alive to serve its own mindless agenda of persistance.... and people serve that agenda just as mindlessly. They distract themselves with pretty, shiny things to keep their minds from potentially realising just how entirely pointless their existence is. And that is all our life experience really is: a distraction... to stop us from self-destructing and f*****g up nature's way.

And I'm past caring about that.
I'm alive while I'm alive, and I'll be dead when I'm dead... and I don't care which way I am. It is all the same to me.

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Not really the point though is it?
I mean this is a far shot from complaints about who gets which seat in the bus / lecture theatre / classroom / whatever.

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28 May 2008, 6:43 am

well it is partialy on human ignorance and what we think. And to me i can not stand the idea of life without purpose, so i agree that I give myself some idea of hope for that is what sets us apart from the animals. well as far as we know.



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28 May 2008, 6:46 am

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well it is partialy on human ignorance and what we think. And to me i can not stand the idea of life without purpose, so i agree that I give myself some idea of hope for that is what sets us apart from the animals. well as far as we know.

*Shrugs*
Life doesn't have any more purpose than you give it.
If you want to set yourself a purpose then go ahead. All the better for you... But you're not doing yourself any favours if you believe there is any further purpose to your existence than that.
We're just random byproducts of larger processes.



Besides... I'm comfortable being a Nihilist.
I don't think I could handle the responsibility of a "higher purpose" anyway.



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28 May 2008, 6:48 am

so you have no belife in a higher power.



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28 May 2008, 6:58 am

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so you have no belife in a higher power.

I'm a Hui-Qu Nihilist.
I believe only in the superiority of nothingness over mere matter.

Even the idea of "power" or "higher" are fundamentally irrelevant, as eventually entropy takes all things. Forms are transient and fleeting.... and all break down upon their return to the void.

And that, in effect, is why I bow to the void itself. I cannot help but admire that which is not.... the all-consuming nothingness. The nothingness that by its very non-nature defeats mortals, worlds and gods alike.... indiscriminately.

I have no place for human illusions. I spit on the desperate delusions and false hope of theists, bowing to their imaginary loving gods.... worshipping things that never existed to begin with. They, in essence, are just worshipping nothing much as I am... but they do a great discredit by assuming it to be anything else (or indeed any thing at all)... by falsely giving it form and function.

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28 May 2008, 7:04 am

your starting to sound a bit like some kind of person who if you were powerful enough become some kind of Sephiroph charicter who will strike down your enemies with your giant nail clipers.



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28 May 2008, 7:06 am

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your starting to sound a bit like some kind of person who if you were powerful enough become some kind of Sephiroph charicter who will strike down your enemies with your giant nail clipers.

Not an entirely inaccurate description, in all fairness.
I probably would.



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28 May 2008, 7:10 am

you read the novel 'Brave New World' it is about utopian society where everyone is hapy, though there isnt any real uniqness andyou dont get any alone time



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28 May 2008, 7:12 am

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you read the novel 'Brave New World' it is about utopian society where everyone is hapy, though there isnt any real uniqness andyou dont get any alone time

I used to own a copy of that book but I never got around to reading it.
It sounds like a nightmare.
It sounds like the sort of thing I would want more than anything to destroy.

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28 May 2008, 7:20 am

yess it may be a nightmare but in a way you can see it wa practily perfect. people were made for specific purposes with inteligence only for what they needed. they had drugs if they felt sad, there was no anger, they had art that everyone enjoyed, loveless intercourse with whoever they wanted to fullfill instinct and everyone was happy. aspergers wold not exist either



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28 May 2008, 7:34 am

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yess it may be a nightmare but in a way you can see it wa practily perfect. people were made for specific purposes with inteligence only for what they needed. they had drugs if they felt sad, there was no anger, they had art that everyone enjoyed, loveless intercourse with whoever they wanted to fullfill instinct and everyone was happy. aspergers wold not exist either

There is no perfection in that.
It is in opposition to all that I am, and I would likely have been destroyed ASAP under those conditions for being unretrievably dissonant to the whole idea.... but even then I'd be aware that no thing in this Universe can avoid entropy.... or change indeed. The entire system WOULD have to break down sooner or later.... as perfection is formless, functionless, and matterless.

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28 May 2008, 7:46 am

I want my soul? topic

Looks like this topic has morphed from habitual seating practices to higher power (or not) pontifications. :?

I always wanted my seat. And I will believe what I want, whether it be the flying spaghetti monster or the God of Nothingness.


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28 May 2008, 7:47 am

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I want my soul? topic

Looks like this topic has morphed from habitual seating practices to higher power (or not) pontifications. :?

I always wanted my seat. And I will believe what I want, whether it be the flying spaghetti monster or the God of Nothingness.

So you found the topic then?

Congratulations.
I don't trust myself to be able to re-find it personally though.
I tend to put such matters as seating arrangements behind me where possible, as the statistical odds are against me sitting where I want to sit.



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28 May 2008, 7:51 am

well ihave only just finished highschool and started uni i have not yet enterd the world



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28 May 2008, 8:23 am

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I am sure im not the only one that has had this problem. when I was in school I would always sit in the same seat and every so often someone would choose to sit there instead. I would often break into tears because I did not know what to do.


I used to have the same problem in school. I was one of the few students that actually preferred 'assigned seating.' Creature of habit that I am, I prefer to sit in the same seat at restaurants, the lunch room at work and so on. I'm particular about the kind of chair I use - so much so that I brought in one of my own desk chairs from home to my office at work. A few months ago, I came in to the office and found my chair was missing. After a search of the department, I went to Editorial and found that one of the new reporters had swiped it. (Our newspaper has more or less 'merged' with a larger newspaper in the area, so some of their staff has been moved to our offices). Now, I'm not exactly happy when someone steals a pen off my desk or a handful of my prized paperclips, but I have to draw the line when it comes to my $150 desk chair with the inflatable lumbar cushion and heating feature. I walked right up to him and demanded to know why he took my chair. He gave me a funny look and said, "They told me to grab one out of Composing." I told him that the chair he's sitting on didn't belong to the company, it belonged to me personally. He refused to give it up, though, stating that he had permission from management to take the chair and if it was mine, I had to prove it. Evidently, he doubted my latent OCD powers. I keep every receipt for major purchases in a metal lockbox at home. The next morning, I not only brought in the receipt, but also a photo of me sitting in the disputed chair (the photo was taken for insurance purposes). I got my damn chair back within 15 minutes. These days, whenever this guy sees me approaching him in the hallway, he turns around and goes the other way.


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