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01 Sep 2008, 10:53 am

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It's quite irritating when authority figures are wrong and you aren't allowed to correct them. I don't like how humanity works. People often get into authority simply because they are more assertive, not because they are more knowledgeable or intelligent. It's a total crock.

yes, that's it. my former supervisor was great, he was a god to me. he didn't mind to admit that he didn't know something or that he's got something all wrong. he didn't mind me teaching him some new things about computers. at the same time was realy great at his job, he achieved the higher position possible in his area, everyone respected him, he was just natural. sometimes even the best ones make mistakes and he was never afraid of admiting it.

now i have younger supervisor who is not very good and he is not even able to admit when he makes a mistake. there is absolutely nothing to admire him for. i don't mind if people do mistakes, but when they refuse admiting it, that's very bad.


I agree, they act like they are superior and I cannot stand anyone like that. There is nothing to admire them about. This is why I cannot stand my mother in law as well... she is quick to point out a mistake that someone else that made but she will never admit to making any of her own. Oh well, I guess that means she is not human... not surprised, she is some kind of weird creature anyway. Because if you live your life without ever making a mistake, you just simply are not human! So next time ask your new supervisor if he is really from planet Earth, or if he some alien from some other fat away planet... if he says "oh course I am from here".. your response would be "oh really, well... could have fooled me, if you have never made a mistake in your life, that just means you are not human so what the heck are you then?".. errr maybe not, that could get you the pink slip. But... funny thought though :)

i have a theory about people who don't admit to making any mistakes. they, in my opinion, don't have very high opinion of themselves. because if people know that they are good at something, they don't need to feel bad about admiting mistakes. if people around you respect you, they are going to respect you even if you make mistakes from time to time, no one expects you to be perfect. but if you are afraid of doing mistakes and therefore not admiting to any, then only because you don't feel to be good at anything to value yourself enough.


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01 Sep 2008, 11:03 am

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I have a theory about people who don't admit to making any mistakes. they, in my opinion, don't have very high opinion of themselves. because if people know that they are good at something, they don't need to feel bad about admitting mistakes. if people around you respect you, they are going to respect you even if you make mistakes from time to time, no one expects you to be perfect. but if you are afraid of doing mistakes and therefore not admitting to any, then only because you don't feel to be good at anything to value yourself enough.
That would be a good theory. It's probably true for some of the annoying, little people.
Unfortunately, the people who are truly in charge, and setting the pace for everyone else, happen to have a very high opinion of themselves. Shame is not a factor at all. They know that they are corrupt. They just don't want anyone else to know about it. They don't care whether we respect them, as long as we shut up and obey. Public knowledge of the truth would extremely inconvenient.


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01 Sep 2008, 3:30 pm

I heard this story recently and had to laugh.

There was this older lady at medical school that was leaning closer to examine the cadaver that was to be part of the class. Then this young butthead comes storming in and tells the woman "Get out of my way old lady I'm going to be a doctor." And then she asks him "Are you going to serve the poor?" and he says in a snotty tone "Well no".

Then she shoots back and says "I am. You get out of my way." Just goes to show you where some of our most trained professionals are coming from and others in authority.

What's that adage? Absolute power corrupts absolutely.



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01 Sep 2008, 3:33 pm

I have a bad history with authority figures, especially when I was a child. I was not rebellious, but I had a tendency to ignore the decrees of authority figures if I felt the order was illogical. If something made no logical sense I simply saw no point in doing it. If said logic was explained to me I would do it. I also asked "why" a lot, which they took as insubordination and arrogance. It also didn't help that sarcasm is one of my defense mechanisms when I feel threatened or slighted, which tends to exacerbate the situation when I'm being confronted by an angry authority figure about my refusal to do as I'm told without question.



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01 Sep 2008, 3:56 pm

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I have a bad history with authority figures, especially when I was a child. I was not rebellious, but I had a tendency to ignore the decrees of authority figures if I felt the order was illogical. If something made no logical sense I simply saw no point in doing it. If said logic was explained to me I would do it. I also asked "why" a lot, which they took as insubordination and arrogance. It also didn't help that sarcasm is one of my defense mechanisms when I feel threatened or slighted, which tends to exacerbate the situation when I'm being confronted by an angry authority figure about my refusal to do as I'm told without question.


that pretty much sums up me and my relationship with all my bosses and proffessors to date. at my previous workplace my boss even nicknamed me why-Anna ;p



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01 Sep 2008, 3:57 pm

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I have a bad history with authority figures, especially when I was a child. I was not rebellious, but I had a tendency to ignore the decrees of authority figures if I felt the order was illogical. If something made no logical sense I simply saw no point in doing it. If said logic was explained to me I would do it. I also asked "why" a lot, which they took as insubordination and arrogance. It also didn't help that sarcasm is one of my defense mechanisms when I feel threatened or slighted, which tends to exacerbate the situation when I'm being confronted by an angry authority figure about my refusal to do as I'm told without question.
That's the story of my life.
When I was a kid, I didn't even UNDERSTAND the typical answer, "because I said so."
I just heard noise, and a refusal to answer.

It's not "defiant" until they turn it into a power struggle.
That clues me into the FACT that the rule is not the issue at all.
The butt kissing is all that matters.

And when butt kissing is all that matters, I can guarantee
you that some form of corruption is hiding behind it.


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01 Sep 2008, 4:05 pm

Tahitiii wrote:
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I don't like authority figures, they overload me.
Why do you think they call them "pigs?"


8) :lol: 8) :lol:


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