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27 Sep 2008, 1:22 pm

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Just found a book called 'Running with Scissors', which evidently is a movie as well. Someone in the book has Asperger's, but he's a minor character...


The guy who wrote Running With Scissors (Augusten Burroughs) has a brother with AS (John Elder Robison) they wrote a book together about AS called Look Me in the Eye.



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27 Sep 2008, 6:34 pm

Edward Scissorhands is a perfect description of Asperger's, allthough it's not mentioned in the movie that he has it. Tim Burton's wife even said in an interview that her husband (whom Edward is based upon) probably had Asperger's.



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28 Sep 2008, 2:16 am

The Lost Prince.
My mom told me I should see this, that the main character probably has Aspergers. Haven't yet, if anyone has let me know what they think.



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28 Sep 2008, 3:01 am

The Rambo series

Schizoid, doesn't talk much, emotionally distant, likes solitude, his only real and constant friend was the colonel, is good at his narrow focus (infantry and helicopter piloting), doesn't care for and breaks authority if it goes against his own views/morals, isn't social, etcetera.



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28 Sep 2008, 3:05 am

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Magnificent 7 - based on a real family, Maggi(?) is played by helena bonham carter and all her sons are on the autistic spectrum or have some kind of disorder I think one is autistic, one with AS, one with ADHD and another who is dyspraxic.
The family is the Jackson family.



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30 Sep 2008, 11:54 pm

Reodor_Felgen wrote:
Edward Scissorhands is a perfect description of Asperger's, allthough it's not mentioned in the movie that he has it. Tim Burton's wife even said in an interview that her husband (whom Edward is based upon) probably had Asperger's.


I second you on that one. It's my opinion that Edward Scissorhands is an accidental metaphor for Asperger's by someone who doesn't know he himself has it (or at least didn't know at the time). Every subtle detail in the movie supports this theory.



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30 Sep 2008, 11:57 pm

Pithlet wrote:
Reodor_Felgen wrote:
Edward Scissorhands is a perfect description of Asperger's, allthough it's not mentioned in the movie that he has it. Tim Burton's wife even said in an interview that her husband (whom Edward is based upon) probably had Asperger's.


I second you on that one. It's my opinion that Edward Scissorhands is an accidental metaphor for Asperger's by someone who doesn't know he himself has it (or at least didn't know at the time). Every subtle detail in the movie supports this theory.


I third you on it. I identify with that movie so deeply it's ridiculous.

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The guy who wrote Running With Scissors (Augusten Burroughs) has a brother with AS (John Elder Robison) they wrote a book together about AS called Look Me in the Eye.


Yeah--the book's great, though I found Robison's thought processes a little 'cold'. I know that's probably only my perception, I just wasn't able to identify with him much, I think I am more influenced by my emotions.


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01 Oct 2008, 11:50 am

Dr. Walter Bishop, portrayed by John Noble in the series "Fringe" seems to exhibit characteristics of some of the people who are within the spectrum.


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01 Oct 2008, 3:19 pm

The main character from 21 (Jim Sturgess) seemed Asperger's and reminded me of myself a lot...the talent with numbers, the fact his 2 friends were quite nerdy and shared the same interest in electrical engineering as him, and then when Kate Bosworth's character walks into the tie shop and he can't look her in the eye or talk to her, that is when he "clinched" it


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01 Oct 2008, 3:35 pm

pakled wrote:
Just found a book called 'Running with Scissors', which evidently is a movie as well. Someone in the book has Asperger's, but he's a minor character...


In "Running with Scissors", the brother of the author (Augusten Burroughs) has Asperger's. His name is John Robison. He basically invented all of Kiss' great guitar effects in the 70's. He invented all of the guitars that the band used. He's a genius. He wrote a book called "Look into my eyes", it's very enlightening and completely brilliant.


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01 Oct 2008, 7:14 pm

Look Me in the Eye is a good book.

One movie that is not directly AS related, but features a high functioning individual with AS traits is Four Minutes. I believe Roger Bannister had a lot of the positive traits associated with AS (high intelligence, a systematizing personality and a relentless drive to succeed).



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02 Oct 2008, 1:19 pm

There was another thread a while back where people were mentioning several people in R. Crumb's life (there's a movie called Crumb) might be on the spectrum.


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02 Oct 2008, 1:52 pm

Psimulus wrote:
Dr. Walter Bishop, portrayed by John Noble in the series "Fringe" seems to exhibit characteristics of some of the people who are within the spectrum.


Not necessarilly.

Dr. Bishop was institutionalized in solitary confinement for 17 years,
so how can you NOT be on the spectrum after that much time?


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02 Oct 2008, 2:57 pm

This is a review about Asperger's in films, done by a member of our Asperger society.

Asperger's in Films

There are many films about autism but only a few specifically about Asperger's. Despite the fact that the term Asperger's was introduced into the English speaking world by Lorna Wing in the eighties, the first high profile film to describe the condition did not appear till 1994.

The film is 'Nell'. It's a film about the discovery of a woman who had been brought up with extremely limited social contact and speaks a language only known to herself. She appears to have a learning difficulty. She's an innocent woman who is fearful of people and somehow wired into a deeper and more spiritual reality. Though she is diagnosed with Asperger's during the course of the film, her extremely unusual upbringing and uniqueness means she does not make it into my Asperger's film list.

There are many film in the eighties and nineties - and in earlier decades - that have tendencies towards Asperger's or include characters with Asperger's personality traits. They can include geeks, nerds, absent-minded professors, shy, naive people, eccentrics and many aliens. The list of films I have in mind are too long to detail here, but I would like to mention 'The Man Who Fell to Earth'(1976), 'Being There'(1979) and 'Edward Scissorhands'(1990).

Towards the end of 2005, the BBC showed several films and documentaries about autism as part of an Autism Awareness Week. In a documentary 'My Family and Autism', Luke Jackson describes his experience of living with Asperger's. I was very struck by the film and it made me think I might have the condition too.

The first key film on my Asperger's film list came out the following year. It is called 'Snow Cake' starring Sigourney Weaver as a high functioning autistic adult. The film intends to inform the public about the condition and to this end Sigourney and the other film crew worked hard to ensure the depiction of HFA was accurate.

The film is about an ex-convict who ends up sharing a few days with a high functioning autistic woman. She does not make eye contact and speaks in an intelligent, intense but rather cold manner. Her has a compulsion for neatness and order. She likes to be alone. She's very aware of her neurological condition and spends a lot of time explaining it.

However, another dimension to her personality is an uninhibited solitary pleasure at simple things such as flashing lights, dancing, rolling around in the snow and even eating snow. This aspect seems to suggest an ability to switch to more classic autistic state. This aspect of her personality greatly adds to her attractiveness as a character though personally I found it hard to reconcile the contradictory personality traits. Still, the film presents a positive and strong image of a disabled woman.

The second key film on my list is called 'Mozart and the Whale'. It was released in the UK a few months ago though it was actually made in USA in 2005. I have not seen the film but only read reviews and watched the trailer a few times.

The film is about the relationship between two people with Asperger's who meet at an Asperger's support group. They are intelligent, talented, articulate and attractive people. The film seems to be a fairly traditional romantic story but with rather eccentric people. The characters seem to be presented as neuro-diverse rather than disabled people. It's a shame that the film has not be released and distributed earlier in the UK. I'm hoping to find it on DVD soon.

In America, the "Snow Cake' and 'Mozart and the Whale' are much mentioned in online discussion though they're not so well know here.

A third film about to join my list is called Ben X. This Belgian film is just released and will be showing at the Edinburgh Filmhouse at the end of this month, from Friday 26 September to 2 October. The film is about a young man who is bullied at school and retreats from the harsh realities of everyday life into an online fantasy world involving role-play.

The film has received very good reviews. Because of the importance of victimisation to the storyline, I expect the film will be much a much less pleasant or inspiring experience than the first two films but I think it's still a film worth seeing.

Another film worth mentioning - though I have not included in my film list - is 'Somersault'(2005). This is a fine and sensitively made film about a young woman who has relationship problems. If it were not for a few very contrived references to Asperger's - from which the director intends to make us think the young woman may have the condition - the link would be impossible to make. However, the fact a film is made about a person with borderline Asperger's - or possibly not - is in itself socially significant.

Finally, a film which may or may not have an Asperger's connection is just released in the UK but not available to view yet. The film is called 'Her name is Sabine'. It's a documentary about an autistic woman filmed by her sister who is a well-known French actress. From what I have read and seen on the video clips, the film is the story of an dispirited autistic woman who appears to be an able, attractive, talented women possibly -with Asperger's - a few decades earlier. Her story is about how she regressed and how the medical system is supporting her.



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04 Oct 2008, 1:03 am

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'Snow Cake'


Never heard of this...just watched the trailer, it looks good.


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04 Oct 2008, 1:27 am

That movie that's in the article section, "If You Could Say It in Words," seems respectably good, from the clips.





I've kind of wondered about Punch Drunk Love before. Barry seems to have a lot of anxiety issues at least, but I'm not sure if he's supposed to be just really sensitive/delicate or if he's supposed to actually have a high-functioning form of autism. I felt it was too vague and non-commital to say for sure.