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04 Apr 2009, 12:18 am

2ukenkerl wrote:
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With intelligence of that magnitude, you could literally bring the world to your knees.


Eh? How would an IQ of 250 make me kneel before its shell?

A bullet doesn't care how smart you are.

A person with that intelligence could devise devastating nuclear weapons and have the ability to engineer pathogens that are not only contagious but extremely deadly with a short duration.


1. IQ does NOT ensure such an ability!
2. Such weapons COULD be engineered by someone not NEARLY as bright!
3. They HAVE been designed by dumber people.
4. The information is FREELY available.

BESIDES, nuclear weapons could hurt the designer! Pathogens may as well, and require some method to avoid it.

Have you seen the principle of an atomic bomb? It is downright SIMPLISTIC! They created 2 methods to do it, and hoped ONE would work. They BOTH did.

A lot of gas weapons and even bacterial are simplistic. As for virus, some claim that AIDS was such an attempt.


The principle is simple but there are other factors to consider. For example, how to mitigate the effects fallout (as this can effect the entire world) and at the same time create enough damage that would force the enemy nation to surrender. The problem with the HIV virus is that it's not easily communicable and death is not immediate. It wouldn't exactly be the best disease for the job unless the virus was manipulated in a laboratory and created to be more easily communicable.



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04 Apr 2009, 12:23 am

Looks like this thread has ironically turned into a war of witticism! :lol:


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04 Apr 2009, 12:23 am

But has anyone considered this possibility? What if the person in question were to immunize himself against the pathogen he would be releasing? Of course, this technique of immunization would be repeatedly tested and perfected on other forms of life.



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04 Apr 2009, 12:29 am

And NO I am not suggesting I would like to use these WMDs.



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04 Apr 2009, 12:49 am

Of course if a microbiologist wanted world domination he would then work towards a cure, testing many lab animals after devising the super pathogen. After finding the cure, he would release the pathogen. Once the pathogen has enough of a devastating effect to greatly impact the world, he would state something to this effect... "I have the cure to this disease but I will only reveal the cure under these specific conditions"....



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04 Apr 2009, 1:25 am

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I literally want to be the most intelligent person on this planet


Wouldn't you rather be creative and original?

And if you are not already the most intelligent person on this planet you are not likely to become the most intelligent person on the planet

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04 Apr 2009, 1:29 am

Greg Smith Web Page Name

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My IQ is high, although I quit school, had serious college problems and am not still mature enough to live life. Being that smart wouldn't be fine with me, but take a look at those 2.

A genius is someone whose IQ is above 180.



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04 Apr 2009, 2:00 am

If I had intelligence of that magnitude, I would become a biologist and attempt to clone species that have previously gone extinct.



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04 Apr 2009, 2:02 am

Well it would be nice to have a few extra IQ points, but I am not sure how it would change me. I think that a high IQ is not going to make you superhappy on its own. Having a high IQ might allow you to do something which makes you happy, but unless you find that thing then you will not be able to take advantage of having a super high IQ.


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04 Apr 2009, 2:22 am

I have an average intelligence and I consider myself very wise. I wouldn't mind being smarter, but I work with what I have.



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04 Apr 2009, 3:26 am

*sigh*

IQ dont mean squat! The person who made the first IQ test even acknowledged that it was NOT a accurate measure of intelligence.



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04 Apr 2009, 6:48 am

timeisdead wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
With intelligence of that magnitude, you could literally bring the world to your knees.


Eh? How would an IQ of 250 make me kneel before its shell?

A bullet doesn't care how smart you are.

A person with that intelligence could devise devastating nuclear weapons and have the ability to engineer pathogens that are not only contagious but extremely deadly with a short duration.


1. IQ does NOT ensure such an ability!
2. Such weapons COULD be engineered by someone not NEARLY as bright!
3. They HAVE been designed by dumber people.
4. The information is FREELY available.

BESIDES, nuclear weapons could hurt the designer! Pathogens may as well, and require some method to avoid it.

Have you seen the principle of an atomic bomb? It is downright SIMPLISTIC! They created 2 methods to do it, and hoped ONE would work. They BOTH did.

A lot of gas weapons and even bacterial are simplistic. As for virus, some claim that AIDS was such an attempt.


The principle is simple but there are other factors to consider. For example, how to mitigate the effects fallout (as this can effect the entire world) and at the same time create enough damage that would force the enemy nation to surrender. The problem with the HIV virus is that it's not easily communicable and death is not immediate. It wouldn't exactly be the best disease for the job unless the virus was manipulated in a laboratory and created to be more easily communicable.


Fsllout doesn't effect the world! It COULD be said to effect cancer! Sorry, I can't resist! :lol: NOBODY has figured out how to mitigate fallout! GRANTED, there is the neutron bomb that tries to use more neutrons, to kill without destroying. As for HIV, nobody REALLY knows how easy it is to spread. And a slow death means MORE contagion! Do you think that HIV would be as big today if people died QUICKLY? THOUSANDS died before they found that a "flight attendent" spread it over a few DAYS! By the time they found that, people in several countries were pretty much DEAD!



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04 Apr 2009, 7:21 am

I know IQs are obviously not accurate(you only have to browse a few pages on these forums to find that out), but I'd like to be generally cleverer.
But, from my experience, people who have high IQs and know it, SOME(not all, SOME) constantly have this idea of supremacy, and are very manipulative, and are narcissists, but as opposed to how they look, their opinions and personality.
By clever, I mean being socially clever, general common sense, etc. A lot of people with high IQs don't have this.
People who flash their high IQs and use them as credentials piss me off.
Again, not all people are like this, but I know a lot of people who are like that, but I do know other people who have IQs of 130, and have only said so when we were actually on the topic. They haven't been like;
'I have an IQ of 130, but you don't make any sense'
Or something.
I think having an high IQ would make me deluded.
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04 Apr 2009, 7:28 am

ruveyn wrote:
Wouldn't you rather be creative and original?

And if you are not already the most intelligent person on this planet you are not likely to become the most intelligent person on the planet

ruveyn


From what I've read, very high IQ people are often convergent, linear thinkers.

IQ tests aren't good measures of divergent or creative thinking because there's only one right answer to each question.

IQ tests don't contain questions like:
"How many uses for a house-brick can you think of?"

http://open-source-innovation.com/forty ... r-a-brick/

The more uses you can find, apparently, the more creative you are.


There's also the saying that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

IQ tests don't measure qualities like persistence, motivation, determination or industriousness.



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04 Apr 2009, 8:15 am

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There's also the saying that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.



That is Edison's bias. He had a hard time relating to real geniuses such as Nikola Tesla who were not only smarter than him, but applied their energy in such a way to think way beyond conventional bounds. If Edison had any appreciation for theory (which he did not) he would have realized that the "Edison Effect" was a key to switching a controlling current. He did not. Had Tesla come to the same discovery we would have had t.v. thirty years earlier.

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04 Apr 2009, 8:58 am

ruveyn wrote:
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There's also the saying that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.



That is Edison's bias.

ruveyn


I get your point, but I still think that IQ tests leave out other important factors such as:

-luck

-access to money and resources

-culture

-communication skills

-schooling, upbringing and opportunities

-frequency of skills practice

-serendipity

-discovering things by accident

Basically being in the right place at the right time with the right applicable skills and know-how.


I once saw a message on a calendar, which read:

"Millions of potential geniuses are born every day."

There's that word: potential.
Unfortunately, not all potential geniuses are going to get the chance to prove themselves due to life circumstances or chance.