Aspergers and victim complex

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I do see your point.

I almost bought your screen name yesterday at a flower shop in Queens.

Please don't be deterred from posting--most threads aren't like this one. Perhaps the length of the thread has something to do with its nature.

I know exactly how you feel there, I'm pretty much the same way at this point, especially in regards to the PPR section. Just about every discussion there turns into a type-out frenzy full of insults that just barely pass the mods because of how they're worded. I haven't bothered looking in the PPR for about a month or more now, and before that, probably 3 months.
In fact, my overall experience here has made me not want to even post most of the time, simply because the kind of reaction I get is like that.

That's why I like, sometimes, to inject a bit of levity into these discussions. People take themselves too seriously frequently. I've been known to do that myself. It's the Way of the Aspie.

Levity is fine in a discussion, although I'm sure sometimes it can be misunderstood.

I can't speak for anyone else here on the forum, but personally, I have to take myself seriously because no-one else will, one of the many things that I imagine is pretty common among those with AS.

me and my lady friend are doing good now.
I leave this thread alone.

I just can't be super-serious all the time. The quality of my life would then become dull. The one thing I hate is sanctimony.

I see what you're saying, though. Aspies are at a disadvantage in social situations--hence, they must present themselves as "serious" in order to be respected.

Bill, I think you're all right. I'm glad you're getting along with your girl now.

I do want to know, as social science is my passion and to understand the way community organizes or breaks down around ways of framing by selecting and/or discarding specific idea material and/or people is very interesting to me, and I think understanding how it works can help a lot of people communicate and connect better for the greater good and to help alleviate a lot of horrible suffering, so to me this all is very serious.
Part of a message I wrote on page 6 of this thread:


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp6025559.html#6025559

I would not say, however, that in this instance here, fighting that one guy even created a good feeling or a feeling of bonding. I see it as simply a very primitive group organization against facing the difficulties and hard Work of sorting out the complexities of such a topic, and some people just succumbed to an energy flow in the opposite direction due to laxity and lack of focus. The worst part for me was the low quality and lack of significant idea content in some of those messages to billiscool, and also the people doing it could see the topic was being deflected, as it was very obvious, and several people even mentioned it, but the people doing it didn't even care.

kraftiekorti. I do not recall ever participating with you before, but to me, though I'm sure your intent is good, the chat quality of your messages is diluting the possibility for any kind of real enquiry that will get to the heart of the very important subject matter of this thread. and in general, imo, once the force is leaked, then the tendency is for that same thing to continue, and I think that the way things have gone today is a good case in point, so I am going to leave this thread for now and go on to some new threads or back to some older ones until/if it gets back on track, which I suspect will not be soon. There are some messages here I wanted to reply to, one by Verdandi, one by Kors, and one by someone who commented on what I wrote about the yes-but game but now cannot. I do not want my messages mixed in with this kind of banter, but maybe someone else will get something out of it. Different strokes for different folks:-)

And personally I would rather be attacked on WP than to have the idea quality of the messages be diluted, though I know not everyone feels the same, so If anyone ever needs to attack anyone and absolutely cannot control himself, then please attack me, as I know how to turn the dialog back to whatever is the subject at hand....just make sure you put some kind of idea content into into the message that is real food for thought.

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I agree. Usually, in person I'm a pretty laid back guy. I make jokes, and relax and don't take anything seriously. Though online, I usually remain serious, particularly when in a serious discussion.

I think you're correct, respect plays a big role in that. Though respect is hard to come by anymore.

We'll never get to the "heart of the manner" by merely splicing words and phrases together in a random manner, so that an academic-sounding paragraph will be produced. This is obfuscation to the highest degree, a barrier to true communication.

Do you think insulting someone gets to the "heart of the manner?" Perhaps I should have let non-sleeping dogs lie. Who do you think you're insulting?

Then again..... who cares?

littlebee if you couldn't be hateful, you'd melt into a puddle of mud. It seems to be the only think keeping you going.

If you feel like I am insulting you, not intended, or maybe you are implying I am insulting the people who were insulting billiscool because of thinking/feeling he is insulting them or whatever. Imo reacting to vaguely perceived insults or even out and out insults is counter productive. We are just on two different tapes of communication style. Carry on.

You stated that my method of "chat" was somehow substandard, that it was "below" the discourse necessary for a productive thread.

Honestly, if someone would state that your level of discourse is inadequate, wouldn't you be insulted?

Be honest with yourself: How would you like it if I told you to "carry on?"

Let's just move on. Shake hands. It's a draw. Perhaps I'm overly sensitive. Perhaps I should take a course on splicing paragraphs.

This argument is not productive. It's my fault for continuing it. I don't know you, and you don't know me. We're just online spectres.

Have a nice day. We live to see another day. Perhaps, at another time, we'll be compatriots.

Actually the last two days some Charlie Parker interspersed with Etta Jones and Etta James and several episodes of Ray Donovan and an very occasional tiny nip of Calvados is keeping me going.... ..plus a lot of love, drinking the water of deep enquiry and sheer inspiration....what is keeping you going?

The thought of listening to a guitarist play raw blues circa 1915, amid the crickets. No fire, because it's too hot. I've just repaired my cabin so that they'll be no leaks when the inevitable thunderstorm arrives.

I feed my family well, and deserve to listen to the Sublime (i.e., the blues) amid the blazing stars, fireflies, and occasional shooting stars which draw parabolic patterns--as if they're trying to create a new constellation.