Treatment of High Functioning Vs Lower Functioning on W.P
Wow that story's horrible from the LFA person on the other site.
I think that kind of troll should def be banned. Maybe we need to be more vigilant for it? I'm not sure how.
I find it hard to PM with people. I've had negative experiences on other sites with PMs. And I feel like it has to be more tailored, more NT, more 'on' in terms of socialising than just writing my opinions/experiences on a main forum.
I do like it - it just feels harder work.
_________________
Not actually a girl
He/him
And yes, ridiculing NTs is probably permitted here because NTs have made life miserable for many on this forum but some balance is probably required given so many members are married to or have friends and family who are NT.
When male aspies post in the "Women's Forum", they need to be cognisant that it is a forum for women.
I don't see why it is unreasonable to expect the same from NTs who are welcomed visitors to a website dedicated to those on the spectrum.
I have *always* thought there was something not right, in the past, in this regard.
^^^^
This
And we need to be cognizant that NT’s are welcomed visitors not enemies when we rant, stereotype or to a certain extent make jokes about them.
I think we need to avoid thinking entirely in negative stereotypes of NTs. But being allistic/autistic is closer to gender than it is to sex - ie, it's a mental difference between people rather than a physical one.
Mental differences between people are easier to 'stereotype' in terms of mental traits. Just as physical differences between people are easier to stereotype in terms of physical traits.
I think it's possible, therefore, for one type of personality (such as a masculine personality or a NT personality - OR a feminine one or an autistic one) to have within it certain tendencies towards the negative. As well as certain positive traits. Stereotyping, yes, but 'in general'.
At least we're not pathologizing them. Or if we are (we shouldn't), at least that has no impact on them in society at large but, rather, is more of a case of parody based on how we're treated irl.
It's like saying 'don't say cis women are shorter than cis men, it's not always true'. Might not always be true but it's fair to say 'this is what I've generally observed'.
_________________
Not actually a girl
He/him
A poster on WP talked about liking people who make and fix things better than people who don’t.
It hit me to the hilt...but then I thought of Gardner’s theory of “multiple intelligences.” That made me feel better.
I do though (shrug emoji)
https://www.autismforums.com/threads/wr ... ost-341152
She's not the only one who left. I'm only bringing this up seeing as it's relevant to the topic of "lower functioning".
Wow! I remember all these users from WP, so this is where they have gone. I didn't realise (naively) that WP is perceived to be so toxic
I do not agree that having subforums for "low" and "mid"- functioning people would amount to harmful segregation. No-one is forcing anyone to just post in that one forum- they are completely free to explore and interact with the rest of the site. But the subforum would be a place to talk to people with similar issues, without the replies being swamped by tactless "high"-functioners. Including those who "see no need for a safe space" because they don't need it themselves. Failing to recognise other people's problems as real is a general human trait that us lot are far from being immune to.
I've definitely seen less frank discussion of "low-functioning" issues here lately than when I joined a few years ago. I've not always been as tactful as I should, and I've encountered people who don't see why I can't magically fix my life. Most of the time, "Haven rules" have been reasonably effective in getting people to think before they reply- some variation on "Please don't talk about your wonderful almost-NT life here!" would be helpful as a header.
Good post
I think that kind of troll should def be banned. Maybe we need to be more vigilant for it? I'm not sure how.
I find it hard to PM with people. I've had negative experiences on other sites with PMs. And I feel like it has to be more tailored, more NT, more 'on' in terms of socialising than just writing my opinions/experiences on a main forum.
I do like it - it just feels harder work.
Yes. That story of online bullying is quite shocking. No idea how to prevent it. Private messaging can be a scary thing to attempt.
https://www.autismforums.com/threads/wr ... ost-341152
She's not the only one who left. I'm only bringing this up seeing as it's relevant to the topic of "lower functioning".
Wow! I remember all these users from WP, so this is where they have gone. I didn't realise (naively) that WP is perceived to be so toxic
Part of that thread turned into gossip where they actually mention actual WP usernames. Nice knowing that I don't exist because someone called my account here a troll account.

_________________
Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
WP is what we all make of it, each according to their ability.
That story of Toothless is, to me, tragic. I wasn't a WP member back then. I read more recent posts and, well, some remarks were hard to disagree.
_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.
<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>
I think that kind of troll should def be banned. Maybe we need to be more vigilant for it? I'm not sure how.
I find it hard to PM with people. I've had negative experiences on other sites with PMs. And I feel like it has to be more tailored, more NT, more 'on' in terms of socialising than just writing my opinions/experiences on a main forum.
I do like it - it just feels harder work.
Yes. That story of online bullying is quite shocking. No idea how to prevent it. Private messaging can be a scary thing to attempt.
_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.
<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>
I even wonder who that member is that bullied her. I wish all those PMs were reported and that troll and their sockpuppets.
_________________
Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
I've reacted badly to people targeting me in the past. The result my account got suspended while no action was taken against the bullies/trolls. That was on forums run by mental health charities. The message being bullying/ trolling was acceptable behaviour,but having a stressful reaction to it was not.
I'm really trying to do better than that. Sometimes it's so hard to tell what is what...
_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.
<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>
Teach51
Veteran

Joined: 28 Jan 2019
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,808
Location: Where angels do not fear to tread.
Do you have any ideas of what kind of responses here would help you?
Do you feel that your voice is respected here now?
I have heard you talk about your step-daughter frequently and how she helps you. I am so glad that she does. Is she still coming frequently during the pandemic?
Anything but harsh responses or the ultra glib 'Try harder' when people have no idea of how hard you may have tried. Constructive criticism is fine. As is suggesting approaches to take.
As for respect; I wouldn't like to say for certain . There are certain places I'm accepted more at than others. Those include schizophrenia.com ; a small UK based mental health forum; Facebook high IQ societies . I would say to a slighter lesser degree here too..
My stepdaughter is still coming round as much as she can ,work permitting. Here she is. I'm very proud of her.
https://www.helpinghandshomecare.co.uk/ ... penham.pdf
She is really special! I am so happy that you have each other.
_________________
My best will just have to be good enough.
Sad thing I had realized online, when a drama breaks out on a forum and the victim reacts, it makes it very difficult for mods and admins to tell who the victimizer is. It's a skill to learn to not react and to just report the post only and learn to use the block or ignore feature if available.
On another forum, someone insulted me so I reacted badly to it and my post was removed and theirs was not because the admin didn't see it as an attack. I even reported the post too. But no warning was given of course.
_________________
Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
I do not agree that having subforums for "low" and "mid"- functioning people would amount to harmful segregation. No-one is forcing anyone to just post in that one forum- they are completely free to explore and interact with the rest of the site. But the subforum would be a place to talk to people with similar issues, without the replies being swamped by tactless "high"-functioners. Including those who "see no need for a safe space" because they don't need it themselves. Failing to recognise other people's problems as real is a general human trait that us lot are far from being immune to.
This.
We even more or less have such a subforum for the most high functioning - 'In-Depth Adult Life Discussion'. It's not all inclusive for the most high functioning autistic people either, because it has an age restriction as well and it may or may not be for specific topics only - I've not actually had a look at it - but it definitely isn't for anyone with less high functioning autism or severe comorbidities. And if having subforums was harmful segregation, that'd apply to that subforum and the women's subforum as well.
If we have a subforum to ensure the discussions between the most high functioning isn't disrupted by less high functioning, there's certainly nothing wrong with having a subforum for mid and one for low functioning people. Though the boarders wouldn't necessarily have to be strictly along functioning labels. There have been several people with type 1 autism or Aspergers who don't have 'normal' lives because of autism or comorbitities who have complained about more high functioning people insisting that autism isn't a disability and that any problem they have isn't due to autism but due to not trying and a subforum for mid functioning people could include them.
Making new subforums would leave the rest of WP intact and merely be an additional option for those who feel more comfortable talking specifically to the people who can relate instead of to everyone.
Subforums is definitely better than sticky threads, because, as soon as there's a high number of people wanting to discuss their issues, doing it all in one thread would get confusing.
Similar Topics | |
---|---|
High End vs Trauma |
05 May 2025, 11:21 am |
High masking female mom, being noticed by „neighbor ladies „ |
13 May 2025, 12:29 pm |
Why Trump has Ghana's LGBTQ+ community on high alert |
20 Apr 2025, 3:27 pm |