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12 Sep 2012, 7:04 pm

I can't really place myself in any one of those archetypes entirely. I seem to have a bit of all of them somewhere within me.


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13 Sep 2012, 7:04 pm

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From what I've read it goes Passive is rarest, followed by Stilted, followed by Active but Odd, followed by Aloof.

As for what's least diagnosed - I don't have the references on hand, but I'm pretty sure that's Stilted (which is the second rarest).

Active But Odd is stereotypical Aspergers, Aloof is stereotypical classic autism.

Passive doesn't fit a stereotype as well but that doesn't mean its not "more autistic".


I'm not saying that there aren't passive people here - I'm sure there are. I'm not questioning any individual person's identification of themselves - I've just noted a trend that abnormal amounts of people identify as passive here, and its been something I've been wondering about since I found these four categories. I just happened to mention it on this thread rather than starting a new thread to discuss it in.

(And so you know, I agree with both of you - XFilesGeek and Verdandi about you being primarily Passive based off of what I've read about you on here.)


I wasn't trying to be argumentative or anything, I was just curious.

I've never really done any in-depth research on the topic, so thanks for the info.

When I get more time I'll be sure to look into it more.


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13 Sep 2012, 7:17 pm

My son, diagnosed with Asperger's, is definately Active but Odd.

My parents say I was like my son when I was little, although I would say from my later childhood to now, I fit the Passive description. My ex husband fits the Stilted description best, especially the difference between home and work.



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13 Sep 2012, 10:31 pm

I'm a mix of Active-But-Odd and Stilted.


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14 Sep 2012, 1:17 pm

Definitely Passive/Active But Odd going on here. Always in the 99th percentile of all my standardized tests but barely able to earn a living, even though I'm considered reliable and a great worker. Unless somebody holds my hand and leads--even sometimes drags--me through the education/job-seeking process, I'll just sit around all day. That's why it took me 10 years to get a bachelor's degree and even though I loved school, I quit going after that. Nobody encouraged me to do any graduate studies and I didn't know what the next step was, so I just stood there.

People mistake my passivity for easygoingness (that looks weird--is that a real word?). That's how I keep ending up married. But then uncooperativeness with uninteresting things happens and I don't do my share of whatever is expected of me, so I'm probably going to keep ending up divorced.


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14 Sep 2012, 1:47 pm

Active-but-odd/silted.

I have very long speech and problems when being spontaneous is required (I wish I did good at jobs tho!) Very hard to take interest in things that are not relatable to my special interests in any way. Horrible with math. I am a very very visual learner. Very naïve socially. People can take advantage of me with ease, especially if it is in a new situation. (This is why I consult a great deal of people before making important choices). Almost had a Dx in childhood but mother refused. Had a PDD-NOS Dx later on in early twenties, moved states and new doctor from free clinic refused to acknowledge dx, therefore , other institutions of the state will not acknowledge it, either. Single-minded focus on special interests of the moment. They evolve and change but revolve around the same central theme.

. . . You know what I am definitely smart enough to know I have ASD. I wish people would understand that I am that smart! =D But I look like an idiot half the time =/



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14 Sep 2012, 3:07 pm

I suspect that my autism is of the aloof-type.

My ASD therapist would most likely peg me as "passive" and I thought that would be it for the longest time. But my past passiveness was always the result of trying hard and is not the natural state-of-being I revert to when I'm exhausted. I worked on getting rid of it, but it's not that long ago still that I still went into passive-observation-mode as a method to spend (more like, physically and emotionally survive) social time wasting as little energy on bothersome, annoying company as possible.

That is why I suspect that aloofness is the right one out of the two because that's the default mode that just "happens" to me. That's to say if aloofness refers to the autism and not to my... personality. You know, the part that thinks about my thoughts and about me and decides on what I do and how I react before running it through a reality check of what's actually possible for me.


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14 Sep 2012, 4:50 pm

I seem to fit the Stilted category the most.


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14 Sep 2012, 6:03 pm

I'm not diagnosed yet (see signature), but I've always fit the 'passive' description, although since the age of about 13, I've been 'active-but-odd'.


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18 Sep 2012, 5:17 am

Passive here but I am trying to be less.



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18 Sep 2012, 5:21 am

daydreamer84 wrote:
Did anyone who has ADHD as well as the ASD and is generally the ....


Yeah I got the mix as well as stoned and drunk San Francisco style aspie subtype...



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18 Sep 2012, 5:40 am

I found this list somewhere a while ago. It's the same list but with some different symptoms.

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3.2 Impairments of social interaction

3.2.1 The aloof group

This is the most common type of social impairment. Behavior may include:

* Behaving as if other people do not exist;
* Little or no eye contact made;
* No response when spoken to;
* Faces empty of expression except with extreme joy, anger or distress;
* No response to cuddling;
* If something is wanted, carers' hands may be pulled towards the object;
* May respond to rough and tumble play well, but when this stops return to aloof pattern;
* Seem to 'be in a world of their own'.

3.2.2 The passive group

Least common group, features include:

* The child accepts social approaches;
* May meet the gaze of others;
* May become involved as a passive part of a game.

3.2.3 The active but odd group

Children of this group make active approaches to others but make that contact in strange ways, including:

* Paying no attention to the other party;
* Poor eye contact although sometimes may stare too long;
* May hug or shake hands too hard.

3.2.4 The over-formal, stilted group

Seen in later life, this behaviour is common in the most able person with autism. The following characteristics tend to be displayed:

* Excessively polite and formal;
* Have a good level of language;
* Try very hard to stick to the rules of social interaction without really understanding them


Going by that list, I'm definitely aloof. Make it "Little response when spoken to" and
"jerking or stiffening as response to cuddling;" and you got me.

I'm not quite sure what to pick from OP's list because nothing there fit me all that well as a whole.


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18 Sep 2012, 8:44 am

active-odd

--though i am passive in one regard: if my total situation is not intolerable, i tend to be reluctant to change it. i stick with dead-end jobs for years, just because i don't have an incentive to change. it's probably a bad trait, but from my point of view i have more important things to think about...


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18 Sep 2012, 1:08 pm

Aloff as a child but now a mixture of Passive and Active but Odd as an adult.


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18 Sep 2012, 1:29 pm

It seems like most people are a mix of the different types...............



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18 Sep 2012, 2:52 pm

I can only assume out of all of the groups, I fit most in the Imageed group.