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17 Mar 2015, 10:41 am

Adamantium wrote:

The meeting sounds like a really good idea, as does the AAC. Good luck!

LoveNotHate wrote:

From observation:

The more intelligent you are, the more conflicted you are.

The ideal life is blissfulness. A lifelong orgasm.

Sounds exhausting.

Also, would interfere with:

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Go to the beach, enjoy youself, party, have fun, live every day like it's your last day.

And potentially quite messy.

I am sure you don't really mean this, but I can't help but read it that way.

Also, what does " live every day like it's your last day" really mean? You would not do any long term activities like learning something complicated. Also the people I love would get irritated with constant farewells, last suppers, etc.

People have to decide how to spend their time. Most people will decide to pursue blissfulness over hardship. However, others will have some confliction that makes them do the unusual, and pursue hardship over blissfullness.

The ones who have that confliction will likely be judged *more intelligent* than the ones who choose to spend their time in bliss.

For example, where I work people will often have a M.S. or PHD degree and have a law degree. They accomplish so much because of an iternal confliction. Some want the prestige of many credentials (i.e., the 'pride' confliction), some want the money ('greed' confliction), some just have a passion for education (i.e., 'passion' confliction) ....

These conflictions cause these people to pursue hardship over bliss, and it results in them being more intelligent than those that choose the bliss of say watching tv.

Some entrepreneurs are millionaires and instead of "living the easy life" they are conflicted to invent/develop even more.

However, there are many people desiring to relax, watch tv, "life the easy life" ... and these people will likely not be judged to be as intelligent as the before mentioned people.

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17 Mar 2015, 10:42 am

Yep....people think I'm pretty dumb.

I like to watch lots of TV.

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17 Mar 2015, 10:46 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

That means "lower second-class honours," right.

Congratulations on graduating, despite those drunk idiots.

Do you intend on going to Grad School?

Hi Kraftiekortie,

Thanks. Yes I did mean a lower second honours.

I'm not thinking about doing any postgraduate study - I'm too old now and I wouldn't want to commit all that money to something that would be unlikely to improve my earnings.

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17 Mar 2015, 10:47 am

I wish that didn't make sense--an education is a great thing.

But it does.

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17 Mar 2015, 10:48 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

Yep....people think I'm pretty dumb.

I like to watch lots of TV.

Intelligence can be a curse.

Intelligent people can build a wall around themselves and forget life is about pursuing bliss IMO.

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17 Mar 2015, 10:50 am

I think you're darn tootin' right about that

(and I'm not kidding!)

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17 Mar 2015, 3:46 pm

I find doing science research pretty blissful, it is super fun for me.

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18 Mar 2015, 12:41 am

btbnnyr wrote:

I find doing science research pretty blissful, it is super fun for me.

As an ASD person, you may find your special interest more enjoyable than relaxation. However, that is not true of most people.

On a relevant "intelligence test", you would likely be judged more intelligent than the millions of people who invested their time in relaxtion / being a coach potatoe.

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18 Mar 2015, 12:45 am

Exams pass, education remains

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18 Mar 2015, 12:47 am

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[b][color=#4444aa]Are university grades a good reflection of intelligence?

No, there are numerous studies including one famous one at Harvard University which finds only a weak association. Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

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If I get a lower mark (but not a shockingly low mark), does it mean I'm not highly intelligent?

lower than what? higher in intelligence than what or whom??

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18 Mar 2015, 1:10 am

cyberdad wrote:

Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

That is the most bizarre research finding I have come across in a long time. Am I right in assuming that this was another "correlation assumed to be causation" thing? As in, academic achievement correlated with relatively high EQ scores, but there was little or nothing in the research that suggested that the skills implied by high EQ scores were directly used to succeed academically?

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18 Mar 2015, 1:17 am

starkid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

It makes sense to me as university drained me a lot with the social interaction rather than the actual material. It was dealing with the big crowds and people that eventually got me to quit as it was slowly driving me crazy. Specially in the high level course were small, thus, resulting in socializing with people more often.

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18 Mar 2015, 1:28 am

starkid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

Yes, the emotional intelligence studies are correlation between academic achievement and EQ, not EQ causes academic achievement. In other studies studying IQ and academic achievement, it is usually found that IQ is biggest predictor of academic achievement.

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18 Mar 2015, 11:11 pm

Tests aren't a good predictor of anything for me. When I was 16 and looking into college I took the ACT with no study invested and scored a 32 which is a pretty decent score. I studied for a full year to squeeze out a few more points (hopefully to 36) but the second time I took the test I scored a 23.

College classes were the only place I ever felt at home though. Precise, logical thinking with attention to minute details = success @ college. My test taking variances occurred there too, but every professor knew me because they were the only social group I had-- I would spend all kinds of time in instructors offices talking esoterically about the subjects they taught. Therefore, I never had an issue with grades even with the occasional test I would bomb-- my professors would seem to forget about those completely because they knew that I knew the information based on our intelligent discussions. Probably the only time in my life the social "game" will ever work out in my favor.

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19 Mar 2015, 1:06 am

starkid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

There are two EQ indicators that are essential for high academic achievement. Stress management and adaptation to changing (environmental) circumstance. Essentially this has to do with maintaining emotional stability. People with high emotional intelligence can overcome limitations in their IQ to attain good academic scores in university...

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19 Mar 2015, 1:09 am

btbnnyr wrote:

starkid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Emotional intelligence is far more important for attaining academic achievement at university than IQ.

Yes that's true. IQ contributes more toward grades > EQ.

EQ does have a more important influence though than originally thought.

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