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18 Mar 2012, 7:37 am

nemorosa wrote:

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Except that the ways they're acting are human.

Not to me they aren't. :roll:

But they are. This is an ancient human emotional expression. Mydar's post explains it well.

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18 Mar 2012, 7:43 am

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In principle, it's a group high that stems from accomplishment. A synergy of efforts that won the prize. The game was successfully traversed.

The 'soccer' picture shows that emotion.

As an introvert, I did play some baseball and we won 2 championships, and it's about the thing of overcoming obstacles for a win. No different for the NASA team when Apollo 11 made the lunar landing. You heard cheers from the exuberance that they did it. " We were about to turn blue here."

It's being a part of 'that something' in real time ( not analysing the parts of life from a remote corner). It's only understood from being there as part of it. You are included in it and your part played a small successful role.

It's an understanding of other minds and understanding their efforts towards the goal. Ergo, an appreciation or feel of them as they applied themselves and surmounted all the challenges. They sacrificed or spent themselves in behalf of others in various ways-- a group dynamic.

That's what I see too. I am guessing it has evolutionary origins in the cooperation needed for hunting large game. Bringing an ipad update to market is trivial in comparison to bringing down a woolly mammoth, but it's a wonderful feeling whether the group jointly accomplishes something important or something trivial.

My most trivial personal example was a group endeavor to move a large and unwieldy piece of furniture. When we got it from pont A to distant point B we cheered in similar jubilation.

Oh, I understand the reasoning behind it all well enough. That isn't the problem. One can know but not understand. I'm curious if people behave this way (the football photo as an example) totally consciously or whether it is purely an automatic and instinctive reaction? I ask because I have never felt any such urge; it's not like its a repressed thing and I don't ever 'feel' this 'group synergy'.

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18 Mar 2012, 7:53 am

Janissy wrote:

nemorosa wrote:

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Except that the ways they're acting are human.

Not to me they aren't. :roll:

But they are. This is an ancient human emotional expression. Mydar's post explains it well.

Not. To. Me.

Really, I don't know how much clearer I can make it :scratch:

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18 Mar 2012, 8:05 am

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....If I were an employee there and asked to behave in that way it would be impossible for me to do so. Don't they feel at all strange?

Me too, I'd rather sweep out sewers alone in the dark than ever end up doing a job that involved such things.

And in this economy, that's exactly what you would end up doing if the boss man asks you to jump and you do anything other than ask, "How high?" Oh, and that's if you could find a job at all.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:09 am

Not read all yet. But do you think Advertising that was used on the latest playground must have toy, is now moved into using the same tactics on Electronic devices & just has improved in tapping into peoples automatic responses. As in the reason as its getting worse. Plus they is more people now.

Just seems blaming them is not really valid.

From nemorosa not been around 20 years ago etc comment.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:09 am

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There is nothing disturbing about the images.

I would think the people in the blue shirts are Apple employees all whipped up into a corporate driven publicity frenzie, I think that is sad to see.

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....If I were an employee there and asked to behave in that way it would be impossible for me to do so. Don't they feel at all strange?

Me too, I'd rather sweep out sewers alone in the dark than ever end up doing a job that involved such things.

To be honest I don't think I would even be able to do it near adequately, to put it nicely

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Disturbing? In what sense?

Yes, I think the people in them are complete morons devoid of any common sense and self-respect, but am I disturbed? Not really... more, er... what's the word? Baffled why people would want to behave like that. Their life, their choice.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:25 am

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Are you an introvert nemorosa?

As an Extrovert like I said before is a "Solar Panel" they naturally gravitate towards group stuff & they deploy they solar panels.

Where as an Introvert starts depleting, to the point you need to leave & recharge your batteries.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:28 am

Of course! In addition to being Aspie, if you are really introverted (look it up). I'm quite an introvert but not as much, I think.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:31 am

nemorosa wrote:

Janissy wrote:

nemorosa wrote:

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Except that the ways they're acting are human.

Not to me they aren't. :roll:

But they are. This is an ancient human emotional expression. Mydar's post explains it well.

Not. To. Me.

Really, I don't know how much clearer I can make it :scratch:

I guess you are one of those people who couldn't care about most advertisements.

^^ I know I'm like that, too.

I don't think it's a human expression at all. Sharing joy is a human desire. Feeling a sense of community is as well.

But this consumerist society does not appeal to me at all.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:35 am

Maybe it bothers you because since you can't "sync" with crowd, you think they will notice you're not "one of them" and kill you as a result. You know, like in those alien pod people movies when the pod people discover that a human isn't under their mind control and they point them out and go, "Rrrraaaggghhhh!!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo[/youtube]

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18 Mar 2012, 8:50 am

Some ads are quite funny &/or sort of well done but I can't forget the basic point of them is to sell me the product. An introvert won't 'get' the sort of stuff depicted in photos. I don't understand how grown adults can get so excited watching other adults kicking a ball around but I don't have to! They don't require me to enjoy it the way they do, only to understand that they do enjoy it, which I do, however puzzling it seems. The OP's probably quite a bit more introvert, so there's that much more of a gulf for them to bridge or something.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:56 am

nirrti_rachelle wrote:

Exactly why I made a reference to "Invasion of the body snatchers" in the very first post. But my reaction isn't one of paranoia or fear that I won't fit in.

BTW, I much prefer the 70's remake to the 50's original.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:59 am

Stupid society.

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18 Mar 2012, 8:59 am

nirrti_rachelle wrote:

Funny part is I did not even know what that was from, until I seen the text of where it's from. Something I have not watched. LMAO

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18 Mar 2012, 9:04 am

As an employee I'd quit and walk off a job right then and there before I'd do anything that made me feel uncomfortable which includes things like singing or acting in an overly outgoing or enthusiastic way that doesn't come naturally to me. (for example, if in a restaurant they wanted me to sing happy birthday or if I worked in this one seasonal restaurant where they yell some weird thing whenever they get a tip I'd quit and leave rather than do that.)

As the customer I wouldn't quite act like the people in the picture but I can understand the excitement in being one of the first to get the latest new thing.

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18 Mar 2012, 9:11 am

hanyo wrote:

Normally you would not take the job though, so you should not get in that situation. Like taking a job on a "Cash till" checkout. When you should be working in the back, like the warehouse. ( should add in if they ask you to sing you could just have someone else do it for you, while you do they job. Sure one will like singing to people, etc )

Also in the uk if you don't hold jobs for long "Employers" can see this as a sign of wasted training money, or bad employee not been able to keep a job.

Unless it was a part time job or temp job, as then you could use it as a excuse.

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