10 Nov 2013, 4:18 pm
leafplant wrote:
do you understand any metaphors at all? 
Yes! I love metaphors! I'm a writer and painter and reader, etc.
By the way, what I meant was can I use the image of two people sitting still and staring into each other eyes, not can I use the Word Sista (I just cracked up when you said it).
On second thought, I think Molly almost said what I was trying to say. I still have a hard time getting emotions out of ordinary conversations (from eyes). I need a chart people! Draw me a chart!!
10 Nov 2013, 4:20 pm
leafplant wrote:
do you understand any metaphors at all?
Personally, yes, I do understand some, but not all. I have never considered the "flashing/sparkling/smouldering eye" thing to be a metaphor. It just doesn't sound like one at all. It sounds like it's supposed to be coming across as a factual statement.
"Her eyes sparkled in anticipation"
er, really? How? Did she have little mini torches fitted inside them or something? Or perhaps she'd had some tinsel put inside there?
Wouldn't it be better to write something that actually happens in reality?
"Her loins tingled in anticipation"
"Her heartbeat quickened in eager longing"
"Her skin rippled with tiny goosebumps"
etc. All of those things are things that can really happen to the human body, and as such, the readers will relate to them. But when people write about eyes that have the ability to flash and shine (i.e. emit light) it makes me think that they must be writing about a different universe, inhabited by a fantasy species of human with different eyes.
10 Nov 2013, 4:24 pm
um. well now, I don't know how to do this without demonstration. Do you want to pop over for a cup of tea? 
There is no chart because each person is different. But there is a trick. You cannot read theirs unless you allow them to read yours. If you won't allow yourself to be read, you won't be able to see anything other than a blank stare from the other side. At least, I think this is how it works most of the time. I try not to do eye contact a lot as it is painful, as we already pointed out.
you don't have to ask for permission to use whatever your imagination comes up with as a result of you interacting with the world. but yeah, sure. If it helps, his eyes flashed brilliant yellow (to my mind) even though in reality they were somewhere between hazel and brown. It was like looking into the eyes of Mystique (from the X men) but in a male form. His eyes seems like portals into other dimensions and the time and space curved and bent around him and me in that one moment and I knew... lolz
Word Sista indeed. 
10 Nov 2013, 4:27 pm
LogicalMolly wrote:
leafplant wrote:
do you understand any metaphors at all?
Personally, yes, I do understand some, but not all. I have never considered the "flashing/sparkling/smouldering eye" thing to be a metaphor. It just doesn't sound like one at all. It sounds like it's supposed to be coming across as a factual statement.
"Her eyes sparkled in anticipation"
er, really? How? Did she have little mini torches fitted inside them or something? Or perhaps she'd had some tinsel put inside there?
Wouldn't it be better to write something that actually happens in reality?
"Her loins tingled in anticipation"
"Her heartbeat quickened in eager longing"
"Her skin rippled with tiny goosebumps"
etc. All of those things are things that can really happen to the human body, and as such, the readers will relate to them. But when people write about eyes that have the ability to flash and shine (i.e. emit light) it makes me think that they must be writing about a different universe, inhabited by a fantasy species of human with different eyes.
Well, i see this ALL the time. Usually, I will speak to people and if we are bantering their eyes will SPARKLE with anticipation, or mischief, or daring or something else. It is literally like a Flash. Boom. There were dull and suddenly this spark of light literally flew out and hit me in the eyeball.
10 Nov 2013, 4:30 pm
leafplant wrote:
um. well now, I don't know how to do this without demonstration. Do you want to pop over for a cup of tea? There is no chart because each person is different. But there is a trick. You cannot read theirs unless you allow them to read yours. If you won't allow yourself to be read, you won't be able to see anything other than a blank stare from the other side. At least, I think this is how it works most of the time. I try not to do eye contact a lot as it is painful, as we already pointed out.
you don't have to ask for permission to use whatever your imagination comes up with as a result of you interacting with the world. but yeah, sure. If it helps, his eyes flashed brilliant yellow (to my mind) even though in reality they were somewhere between hazel and brown. It was like looking into the eyes of Mystique (from the X men) but in a male form. His eyes seems like portals into other dimensions and the time and space curved and bent around him and me in that one moment and I knew... lolz
Word Sista indeed.
There is no chart because each person is different. But there is a trick. You cannot read theirs unless you allow them to read yours. If you won't allow yourself to be read, you won't be able to see anything other than a blank stare from the other side. At least, I think this is how it works most of the time. I try not to do eye contact a lot as it is painful, as we already pointed out.you don't have to ask for permission to use whatever your imagination comes up with as a result of you interacting with the world. but yeah, sure. If it helps, his eyes flashed brilliant yellow (to my mind) even though in reality they were somewhere between hazel and brown. It was like looking into the eyes of Mystique (from the X men) but in a male form. His eyes seems like portals into other dimensions and the time and space curved and bent around him and me in that one moment and I knew... lolz
Word Sista indeed.
I should take a class in this - surely somewhere there must be one.
Maybe I really don't have normal eye contact. Maybe that's the problem. Hmm Ms. leafplant (speaking of metaphors!) - you may be on to something.
I do notice that sometimes for brief encounters I won't even look at a person at all, but I don't realize it until they have already walked away. LIke sometimes if my bosses walk up to my desk and hand me something with a short talk. I feel really bad then, like I dissed them on accident.
10 Nov 2013, 4:31 pm
wozeree wrote:
Molly is a pretty cool person with a big heart from what I can tell, I'm sure her book would be very interesting! I just hope she doesn't review mine on Amazon 
(I think i might be overusing these emoticons!)
(I think i might be overusing these emoticons!)Oh thank you so much wozeree. I have only just noticed this nice comment to me on page 2, and also OctoberTiger saying kind things to me as well about buying my pretend book. I feel much better now. I was worried I had offended the OP too much and made lots more people hate me and it made me very sad that yet again my attempts to communicate with my fellow humans were dommed to end in people disliking me. Anyway I feel happier again now. Thank you.
leafplant wrote:
Well, i see this ALL the time. Usually, I will speak to people and if we are bantering their eyes will SPARKLE with anticipation, or mischief, or daring or something else. It is literally like a Flash. Boom. There were dull and suddenly this spark of light literally flew out and hit me in the eyeball. Laughing
Really? Are you being serious?
I don't understand.
10 Nov 2013, 4:59 pm
yes, I am being serious Molly. and everyone likes you, even if you do go on a bit 
do you live anywhere near London? if so, I would be happy to meet up and try and show it to you. It might not work but I am curious now about why it doesn't for you.
wozaree wrote:
I do notice that sometimes for brief encounters I won't even look at a person at all, but I don't realize it until they have already walked away. LIke sometimes if my bosses walk up to my desk and hand me something with a short talk. I feel really bad then, like I dissed them on accident.
Yeah, that can come across as rude sometimes, but hopefully your boss is already used to your particular ways. However, if you are concentrating on something, it's ok not to look up if someone is just dropping off something on your desk although you always score brownie points with people for acknowledging them.
Maybe I will run an eye contact master class for aspies
10 Nov 2013, 5:04 pm
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10 Nov 2013, 5:06 pm
leafplant wrote:
yes, I am being serious Molly. and everyone likes you, even if you do go on a bit
do you live anywhere near London? if so, I would be happy to meet up and try and show it to you. It might not work but I am curious now about why it doesn't for you.
do you live anywhere near London? if so, I would be happy to meet up and try and show it to you. It might not work but I am curious now about why it doesn't for you.
Oh, thank you. I'm sorry if I write too much. There always seems to be a lot to say. I could probably write a whole forum full of posts just of me talking to myself.
Are you really being serious? Sparks flying out of people's eyes? Honestly? That's not physically possible.
I still don't understand.
I don't live near London at all, I'm afraid (if that was directed at me). Anyway I would not want to meet up with you to gaze into your eyes in your master class. As I explained, I find eye contact to be very intimate and I don't like looking into people's eyes in a prolonged fashion. It feels like promiscuity to look everyone in the eyes. I only want to look one person in the eyes.
10 Nov 2013, 5:11 pm
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10 Nov 2013, 5:19 pm
LogicalMolly wrote:
leafplant wrote:
yes, I am being serious Molly. and everyone likes you, even if you do go on a bit
do you live anywhere near London? if so, I would be happy to meet up and try and show it to you. It might not work but I am curious now about why it doesn't for you.
do you live anywhere near London? if so, I would be happy to meet up and try and show it to you. It might not work but I am curious now about why it doesn't for you.
Oh, thank you. I'm sorry if I write too much. There always seems to be a lot to say. I could probably write a whole forum full of posts just of me talking to myself.
Are you really being serious? Sparks flying out of people's eyes? Honestly? That's not physically possible.
I still don't understand. I don't live near London at all, I'm afraid (if that was directed at me). Anyway I would not want to meet up with you to gaze into your eyes in your master class. As I explained, I find eye contact to be very intimate and I don't like looking into people's eyes in a prolonged fashion. It feels like promiscuity to look everyone in the eyes. I only want to look one person in the eyes.
Well yes, it is intimate-ish but how do you justify disbelieving me when you won't even try it with anyone?
Why is it wrong for everyone to know what is everyone really like? That's not promiscuity, that's just not living lies. To me anyway. However it does feel very intimate, I agree, but there is a socially acceptable level and then an intimate level of eye contact but if you don't engage with people you can't learn which is which. Anyway, you have your preferences, I don't wish to sound like I am trying to persuade you into something, just pointing out my own view of this phenomenon.
I can only go by my own experience, and the instances I describe do indeed contain an element of light enhancement. Call it a spark or a flash or whatever - suddenly, there is much more brightness than there was a moment before and than it is gone. If you don't call that a spark or a flash, what would you call it?
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