University marks and intelligence.
My EQ is pretty low. My IQ is 160 apparently (Welscher Intelligence Scale). But I've always been delayed in emotional maturity and I was also developmentally delayed. Had a speech delay. Couldn't tie my shoelaces until I was 13 years old (and even now I have to wear elasticated shoelaces because I struggle with normal shoelaces, and I'm 25). Couldn't ride a bike until I was 14, and still fall off a lot when I try. Couldn't catch a ball until I was 15. Had loads of swimming lessons but I still can't swim at all (the number of times I've nearly drowned in the secondary school swimming pool when I was younger has given me a phobia of swimming pools - I can't even walk near one without shaking). Tennis, hockey, rounders, football, lacrosse: I had to play those at school and was banned from half of them because my motor skills were (and still are) so poor that I was a danger to the other pupils. I was good at running though.
I also have the following neurological conditions on top of autism: dyspraxia, visual processing disorder, dysgraphia, chronic migraines, convergent squint (not due to eye muscles but due to my brain not being able to coordinate my eyes properly), sensory integration disorder, communication disability, and I have suspected partial seizures, but they're not sure about that one.
My migraines have been so severe that I've had a hemiplegic migraine recently (after having a 10 day long basilar migraine) that I ended up in A&E presenting like a transient ischaemic attack. I was a zombie for a week aftewards and I had quite bad cognitive dysfunction during that time. I remember sleeping a LOT and just walking into walls most of the time when I was awake. I went to uni and have amnesia for most of what happened.
SO....probably all that impairs my ability to succeed at uni? I am a zombie for two hours when I get home from uni, due to prolonged sensory overload and people / communication overload. Even though I wear dark sunglasses and earplugs it's not good enough. My visual processing disorder means that my support worker has to lead me through uni because otherwise I'll start screaming - my vision confuses the positions of people in crowds and I just see a giant mass of colour but no borders.
I have to go now, meeting support worker before lecture.
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I am a partially verbal classic autistic. I am a pharmacology student with full time support.
College classes were the only place I ever felt at home though. Precise, logical thinking with attention to minute details = success @ college. My test taking variances occurred there too, but every professor knew me because they were the only social group I had-- I would spend all kinds of time in instructors offices talking esoterically about the subjects they taught. Therefore, I never had an issue with grades even with the occasional test I would bomb-- my professors would seem to forget about those completely because they knew that I knew the information based on our intelligent discussions. Probably the only time in my life the social "game" will ever work out in my favor.
Well, based on that description... I'm going to say that college isn't like that anymore, at least not my college. Especially the math, science, and history classes which nearly have automated grading.
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Did your DSA report provide a fair reflection of your needs?
It seems to me that there's probably a statutory failing somewhere here. I'd talk to your support worker and the disability service.
I had a very good DSA assesor who did a 53 page report on me. Then my university went and ignored half of it. It was explicitly stated that I needed a full-time support worker right from the start. I didn't get one until the second half of the first year, when I had been sectioned (committed to psych ward involuntarily) twice in one term. And my mental health care coordinator (from the NHS) had to send loads of emails to the university telling them to hurry up, and in the end my care coordinator had to do most of the work.
Statutory failing definitely - the Autism Act says so.
I am considering to take the biochemistry exam, quit this uni, and then take my credits to another uni. I have found two possible unis that are reputable for their disability awareness and assistance, both in London.
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It seems that measures of emotional intelligence are only associated with but not shown to cause or be good predictors of academic achievement.
The academic achievement levels used in studies are rough groups like comparing >80% scores as high achievement vs. <60% scores as low achievement.
I would guess that at the highest levels of academic achievement, emotional intelligence ackshuly drops.
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What will change if you transfer to another school?
You will probably have support worker and taxi like now, but what else?
Is the commute shorter?
Tutors and lecturers more understanding and willing to help you? How would you know this beforehand?
More places at school to avoid sensory overload?
I think you should check out all factors carefully before transferring.
UCL is a good school academically, and they are providing support currently.
If you don't get much more help elsewhere, transfer may not be the best idea.
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Drain and plane and grain and blain your brain, and then again,
Propane and butane out of the gas main, your blain shall sustain!
The academic achievement levels used in studies are rough groups like comparing >80% scores as high achievement vs. <60% scores as low achievement.
I would guess that at the highest levels of academic achievement, emotional intelligence ackshuly drops.
Generally agree with this. I'm not 100% certain EQ would drop in the highest level of academic achievement though.
You will probably have support worker and taxi like now, but what else?
Is the commute shorter?
Tutors and lecturers more understanding and willing to help you? How would you know this beforehand?
More places at school to avoid sensory overload?
I think you should check out all factors carefully before transferring.
UCL is a good school academically, and they are providing support currently.
If you don't get much more help elsewhere, transfer may not be the best idea.
There are a couple of universities that I've heard from a friend and my occupational therapist, that have very good disability services and are much more disability aware.
I don't know yet. I suppose I could file a formal complaint about the disability services at UCL and that will make them move on and then I could stay. UCL is a highly performing uni and I like that.
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The academic achievement levels used in studies are rough groups like comparing >80% scores as high achievement vs. <60% scores as low achievement.
I would guess that at the highest levels of academic achievement, emotional intelligence ackshuly drops.
Generally agree with this. I'm not 100% certain EQ would drop in the highest level of academic achievement though.
A lot of people at highest academic achievement levels have high AQ, and usually people with high AQ have low EQ.
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You will probably have support worker and taxi like now, but what else?
Is the commute shorter?
Tutors and lecturers more understanding and willing to help you? How would you know this beforehand?
More places at school to avoid sensory overload?
I think you should check out all factors carefully before transferring.
UCL is a good school academically, and they are providing support currently.
If you don't get much more help elsewhere, transfer may not be the best idea.
There are a couple of universities that I've heard from a friend and my occupational therapist, that have very good disability services and are much more disability aware.
I don't know yet. I suppose I could file a formal complaint about the disability services at UCL and that will make them move on and then I could stay. UCL is a highly performing uni and I like that.
What will change if you file a complaint?
What are you going to get from UCL if they take your complaint seriously?
I saw that UCL has mentors for students with ASD, are they able to help you with some communication issues relating to classes?
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Drain and plane and grain and blain your brain, and then again,
Propane and butane out of the gas main, your blain shall sustain!
What are you going to get from UCL if they take your complaint seriously?
I saw that UCL has mentors for students with ASD, are they able to help you with some communication issues relating to classes?
I am not sure waht exactly will change but I have heard that I am not the only one having problems.
I have a full-time support worker at UCL who sits with me in all my lectures and between lectures, to stop me from having a meltdown, panic attack or just not attending lectures at all through fear of sensory overload. The uni didn't do much to organise the support worker: my home support worker, a friend of mine, my care coordinator and I did 80% of the organising of the support worker. If we hadn't put the effort in I wouldn't have had one.
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I am a partially verbal classic autistic. I am a pharmacology student with full time support.
The academic achievement levels used in studies are rough groups like comparing >80% scores as high achievement vs. <60% scores as low achievement.
I would guess that at the highest levels of academic achievement, emotional intelligence ackshuly drops.
Generally agree with this. I'm not 100% certain EQ would drop in the highest level of academic achievement though.
A lot of people at highest academic achievement levels have high AQ, and usually people with high AQ have low EQ.
We probably need to agree what is high AQ? I assume you are referring to the North American GPA or grade point average? In Australia we have nominal Pass/Credit/Distinction and High Distinction which varies along GPA depending on the state.
If then you have very high AQ you will need to modulate your emotions in order to focus/concentrate and attain high grades. This would not be likely unless you have moderate to high EQ...of course if you are referring to savant autistic individuals with photographic memory then that's another matter entirely.
I just read a study that showed that a persons IQ increases when you give them a monetary reward for scoring well. The greater the monetary reward, the higher the IQ. A $10 reward can cause IQ to be 20 points higher.
http://news.sciencemag.org/2011/04/what ... ly-measure
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The academic achievement levels used in studies are rough groups like comparing >80% scores as high achievement vs. <60% scores as low achievement.
I would guess that at the highest levels of academic achievement, emotional intelligence ackshuly drops.
Generally agree with this. I'm not 100% certain EQ would drop in the highest level of academic achievement though.
A lot of people at highest academic achievement levels have high AQ, and usually people with high AQ have low EQ.
We probably need to agree what is high AQ? I assume you are referring to the North American GPA or grade point average? In Australia we have nominal Pass/Credit/Distinction and High Distinction which varies along GPA depending on the state.
If then you have very high AQ you will need to modulate your emotions in order to focus/concentrate and attain high grades. This would not be likely unless you have moderate to high EQ...of course if you are referring to savant autistic individuals with photographic memory then that's another matter entirely.
By AQ, I mean autism quotient.
I can tell you that focusing and concentrating don't require much modulation of emotions at all, you just have to focus on your special interest like autistic people often do.
The people I am talking about are people around me, many of whom have lots of autistic traits and high AQ/low EQ and highest levels of academic achievement.
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