do you think it's harder to be a guy or a girl as an aspy?

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I've never ever experienced to be a female since I'm a male. No idea how's to be something else than a male aspie.

Oh, and you think the "just shy" thing doesn't?
Trust me, guys soon pick up on the fact that a woman is socially ret*d.

Look, we all know there are more rules for women than there are for men. End of.

I personally think it's harder to be a male Aspie because many (not all, obviously) NT females seem to be more mature and empathic. The female Aspies I know have many more friends than any of the male ones.

Female, because in addition to all the cons of AS, we also suffer from misdiagnoses and social BS and cultural expectations. But I am sort of proud of my AS now so...

Seems like kind of a fruitless debate. Everyone will think s/he has it worse because the challenges the other faces are invisible. I find it very hard to get along with other women, but easier to get along with men. Guys with AS (actually, guys in general) probably don't realize how nasty women can be toward each other and especially toward those among them who are different and socially awkward, but I don't doubt those guys have problems I don't notice, too. One thing that occurs to me is that, as a female, I can present my weaknesses as "cute" (as odious as I might find that) while a guy would be expected to look strong.

it's harder to be a woman (on the spectrum or not) because women cannot win. If you look prettier than a passing woman, she will glare at you because she's jealous. If you look less attractive than a passing woman (in their opinion) she will judge you and accuse you of ''not making much effort with yourself'' and then gloat. If you're equally as attractive or dress very similar to a passing woman, she will glare at you because she wants to look ''the best''. Not all women are like this (I'm certainly not), but it seems a lot are, more so towards eachother in the street. I feel women are so critical, and that they turn public places into a ''try to be better than one and another'' compitition, when really some people just need to grow up. I always thought acting critical of eachother and getting all jealous of eachother was school yard behaviour, typically within a group of bitchy 14-year-olds. Thankfully there are some women out there who has outgrown all that nonesense and would rather focus on more important things in life.

My 20-year-old went to a party with some mates, and one of her mates told the other girls not to dress up as pretty as her because she wanted to look the most stunning out of the whole group, so when they all turned up they wore nice things but didn't look too stunning like this girl did, but then this girl started judging the other girls because they weren't dressed up that nice. What an immature little b***h! And all the lads who went didn't give a s**t who was dressed in what, as long as they looked nice enough for the party. They thought all the girls looked nice, and just wanted to enjoy the party. Lads are so much easier. I know there are still rules for men but they're more easier to ''follow'' than the rules women are lumbered with.

Interesting. I have always found the female rules much easier to follow than the male rules and in general, girls have always been much more friendly to me than other boys.

OK, maybe women don't know how it feels to be a man, and men don't know how it feels to be a women, which is why women in the spectrum seem to be judged a lot less by men, and men on the spectrum seem to be a lot less judged by women. Perhaps there are as many rules for men as there are for women, but only women check out other women, and men check out other men. Perhaps men criticise other men in their own way that women can't see, and vice versa? Because looking at men through the female lens, I can only see justice. But perhaps a man looking at women through the male lens can only see justice.

But, really, I think the fashion rules are more pressurizing for women. Men don't have to make so much effort with their clothes and can still be attractive. Some girls like men in ripped jeans and a scruffy T-shirt, but if a girl is caught in ripped jeans and a scruffy T-shirt, they get judged, by both men and women. A man has probably got to make more effort with his appearance if he wants to be in touch with his feminine side or if he likes being gay, but a woman doesn't have to make much effort with their appearance if they want to be in touch with their masculine side. Unfortunately I hate people thinking I'm a lesbian, and I get self-conscious if I get mistaken for a boy, so I have to make extra effort to look as feminine as I can, which is all hard work.

I see no "justice" in either of the two genders. I agree that society harbours ridiculous expectations for females.

I only speak from my own experience which is obviously incomplete in comparison to your own. I probably exhibit more feminine traits than male traits which is why I feel the way I do. I have to admit that as you pointed out, females can be really bitchy, although recently, males (in my school at least) have begun behaving in this way too!

I think that in general, being female is harder, but it may be slightly harder for males (particularly children and adolescents) on the spectrum because although females b***h about each other a lot and physical abuse obviously goes on, direct, humiliating verbal abuse and severe physical abuse is generally much more frequent in the male world.

No disrespect to you is intentional Joe90, I am merely speaking from my own experiences. The majority of which are horrible.

Speaking from my own experience, female bullies are vicious harpies who take full advantage of their amazing social capacities.

This would make me very happy even though it taste's like dry cardboard. Just because I'm vegan I still appreciate flavour you know

It's sad but true society would prefer a grinning idiot and if in doubt turn on the TV . Sadder yet your supposed to be sooooooo appreciative of these dead end jobs.

Have you considered moving to Germany ?

Subway DOES taste like dry cardboard. I hated the food and would refuse to eat it unless I was completely desperate to get something in my stomach.

Everything else you said rings true also. They want to treat us like disposable garbage but don't you dare show your displeasure in it with your facial expression or else a phone call to corporate is in order!

I have always wanted to visit Germany, and that was also the foreign language I took in high school. I regret not sticking with it because I really enjoyed it. I do recall our teacher telling us that local Germans prefer to have a more serious expression on their faces and that it's really easy to spot the Americans if you are over there.

^^^^

Also for the meat eaters




I suggested Germany because da germans care about productivity, that and they still make $%^& productive person making *(&T in a factory sounds perfect for us .


Sadly Australia makes nothing these days my Italian deli lady owner person made a joke when I said my Swiss/French uncle asked "what does Australia make" she joked puts her hand up in a Latin like manner and says they make air, and I joked polluted air (from all that coal mining I imagine)

I need to accept Australia's economy is nothing more than a high rise overlooking a quarry (sad but true)