I've said that I wanted to kill myself just to get attention

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03 Aug 2008, 2:08 pm

I wish you all the best "Mw99". Keep it safe.

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03 Aug 2008, 2:16 pm

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No, no, anxiety isn't a mental illness. It's a normal emotion. Not having the skills to cope with anxiety, so that it causes problems for you, is a mental illness. You will always have anxiety; every human being on the planet has anxiety, and they don't put Valium in the drinking water. Having it constantly and for no real reason, when it impairs your ability Generalized Anxiety Disorder IS a mental illness.

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Incidentally, I've done the 'suicide watch' thing. I was highly stressed and had done a lot of self-injury in an attempt to cope, so they figured that I was suicidal. (I was depressed and hato get on with life, is the point at which it becomes a problem.



d been thinking and planning; they weren't far off.) They said "overnight"; I stayed for ten days and got kicked out of college.


I'm sorry to hear that. But, you see what I mean? They'll go through the motions and throw you in a mental hospital without caring if they actually ruin your life in doing so.

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They don't treat you with respect as a mental patient. They never hit me or restrained me (though at one point I had six people ready to do just that if I twitched a muscle rather than just screamed into my pillow). But they did keep me in the dark about diagnosis and medication, they didn't tell me what was going on, and they treated me very much like a small child.


I believe you. If my psychologist treated me like garbage, I can imagine how the personnel at a mental hospital will treat me. I wonder if they purposely try to traumatize patients with the horrors of mental hospitals and the whole psychiatric system in an effort to motivate them into making an effort to fix their own mental problems. Does anyone know?

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Incidentally, the medical bills will haunt you for the rest of your life.


Just out of curiosity, how much money did your stay at the mental hospital cost you?



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03 Aug 2008, 2:24 pm

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You see, anbuend, I never got over the fact that I live in a world full of irrational people, who often make judgements based on stereotypes and preconceived notions, and that I need to make concessions for them. We are all irrational, I grant you that, but some people are a lot more irrational than others and I simply don't feel like I should cater to them. Now, is this the sociopathy that you hinted at when you observed that my lack of empathy is not of the autistic kind? By the way, I've taken several personality disorder tests, professionally administered and internet-based, and I never scored high on antisocial. I tend to score high on Schizoid, Schizotypal and Avoidant.


Forget the internet-tests! If you really care for yourself, see a professional! It´s admirable that some people here answer with great patience and respect for you even though this thread could imply other reactions. But that´s just what you want: attention. 5 pages right now, so you´ve got what you wanted. Some guys really wanna help you, so what are you gonna do about it? Will you search for professional help? I strongly doubt it...if you don´t, this thread is a waste of time!



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03 Aug 2008, 4:58 pm

Mw99 wrote:
Why won't they consider the possibility that I was just joking? It's a valid possibility, after all. (Just read this thread, if you believe I'm being dishonest.)


Its just like Dr. House says, "All patients Lie."

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And if all I have to do in order to get locked up for 3 days is to claim that I'm suicidal, well, if I ever become homeless and don't have anywhere to go, ...


There are a lot of homeless guys that do exactly that, and a lot of them are sent away. Basically, we can usually tell them apart. If the guy has been in there before, we already have a history on him. We know if he's really suicidal from the last visit.

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And what about the psychological trauma that an almost normal person will suffer after being locked up side-by-side with real lunatics? Did anyone think about that? Noone cares, right?


Its not that bad because most of them are doped up just like you would probably be. However, in a mental ward in a hospital in the next county, one of the homicidal maniacs was late getting his meds and subsequently killed two nurses and several other patients. They are a lot more careful with that guy now. Because he's nuts, he doesn't go to jail.

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When you say that patients are treated with respect, ...


They are treated with Real respect. They are not worshiped, but they are treated just like you would treat any other normal person as much as possible.

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It's on a voluntary basis but I bet you folks brainwash them or coerce them in subtle ways into wanting to get ECTs. In that case, how can their choice to get ECTs be considered voluntary?


They line up for ECT because it works.



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03 Aug 2008, 5:25 pm

i just dont want to u get in trouble so u want suggessions how to deal whith axsiency? well one great think that would help would be looking local aspie group which could help^^ option number 2 do waht u enjoy...mine happen to be games so i game most of day :P never get bored..also try some online games..no more bots and its also sosial at same time helps practising sosial skills :)


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03 Aug 2008, 5:31 pm

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I always made it clear that it was my right to do whatever I wanted with my life and that they had no right to interfere with my own personal decision.




yes, I just can´t stay away from this thread, sorry about that. :) However, this comment of yours is interesting.

You are basically saying that nobody have the right to decide over your life in any way. I totally agree with your opinion here. I am against forcing people to do things that they themselves don't want to do.

At the same time, I'm a bit confused about the way people view there lives today. They seem to be so sure that they only live once and then they die. They seem so sure that they won't have to answer and take responsibility for there actions after there life is over.

My biggest desire for my life is to do whats right. I don't have any real desire to do things and experience things in life, just for my own pleasure. I want to do whats right. I don't know exactly what that is, but perhaps I can find the answer in the holy book, the bible.

That´s just how I feel.



03 Aug 2008, 8:39 pm

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No, no, anxiety isn't a mental illness. It's a normal emotion. Not having the skills to cope with anxiety, so that it causes problems for you, is a mental illness. You will always have anxiety; every human being on the planet has anxiety, and they don't put Valium in the drinking water. Having it constantly and for no real reason, when it impairs your ability to get on with life, is the point at which it becomes a problem.

There must be other ways of getting attention. Lots of people like to have other people pay attention to them--most people, in fact, including most outgoing autistics and some of the introverted ones. It's a legitimate desire... Most people fulfill it by socializing, paying attention to someone else in exchange for having them pay attention to you. There are other ways; if you do something well, you will often get people to notice you. Certain styles of dress or behavior are more eye-catching than others.

So I guess the best thing to do at this point is to find a different way of handling your anxiety, and find a different way of getting attention.

Incidentally, I've done the 'suicide watch' thing. I was highly stressed and had done a lot of self-injury in an attempt to cope, so they figured that I was suicidal. (I was depressed and had been thinking and planning; they weren't far off.) They said "overnight"; I stayed for ten days and got kicked out of college.

They don't treat you with respect as a mental patient. They never hit me or restrained me (though at one point I had six people ready to do just that if I twitched a muscle rather than just screamed into my pillow). But they did keep me in the dark about diagnosis and medication, they didn't tell me what was going on, and they treated me very much like a small child. I got very little attention from the nurses, actually; they mostly try to make sure you are not killing yourself or anyone else. You generally don't get any more than group therapy in the hospital, either; they will focus on medical management.

If they get the idea that you want attention, they won't give it to you, no matter how much you need it. They will also label you 'Borderline', which doesn't help even if you actually ARE borderline, because it's such a stigmatized diagnosis.

And keep in mind--I was in the ward for the higher-functioning people. If you are actively psychotic or you can't take care of your basic needs, you won't be in a posh place like that.

If you are about to be homeless, saying you are suicidal is actually a workable strategy to stay off the streets. In my case, it wouldn't be a lie; I couldn't survive on the street and would rather have a clean death. To get in, you need to have a highly lethal plan. However, you need to be sure that you have a "normal act" ready to go whenever you want to get out--and that includes socializing with the other patients. Don't stay in your room. If you're a girl, put on make-up; if you're a guy, shave or trim your beard. Smile. Kiss up to the doctors and tell them you want to "recover". Take any pills they give you; if the pills make you too groggy to keep up the normal act, find a way to dispose of them--but remember that the first time you're caught doing this, you will never be able to do it again because they will watch you. This is a desperation strategy; it is what you do if you can't find a homeless shelter that will take you (which is likely enough if you are a guy, because they always take women first) and can't mooch off a friend or find a relatively public place to spend nights (college libraries are a good bet, usually, if you can look like a student).

Incidentally, the medical bills will haunt you for the rest of your life.



There is anxiety disorder.